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Old June 14th, 2007   #1
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ST. LOUIS — Attorneys representing Major League Baseball argued Thursday that online fantasy baseball companies cannot operate without paying license fees to MLB to compensate players for the use of their names.

A panel of three judges at the 8th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals seemed skeptical that MLB could take financial control of a game that uses publicly available statistics and widely known names of players.

"MLB is like a public religion. Everyone knows (the players') names and what they look like," said U.S. Judge Morris Arnold. "This is just part of being an American, isn't it?"

MLB's lawyer Virginia Seitz said online fantasy games exploit players by effectively turning them into game pieces and using their names to draw more customers.

"There's no way of escaping the fact that players' names are on the product," Seitz said.

Major League Baseball is appealing a lower court judgment last year that ruled St. Louis-based CBC Distribution and Marketing Inc. does not have to pay licensing fees for MLB players' names and statistics as fodder for online fantasy league games.

The fantasy league industry generates more than $1.5 billion annually from millions of players. Big media companies like Yahoo, ESPN and CBS pay MLB millions in annual fees to operate online fantasy leagues.
Players make fake teams comprised of real MLB players. Over the course of a season, fantasy league players crunch statistics to judge how well the players of their fake team are performing.

If MLB wins its suit against CBC, it would effectively give the league monopoly rights over publicly available statistics and other information that is used as fodder for fantasy leagues across the country, said CBC's attorney Rudy Telscher.

"If we lose this case, hundreds of companies go out of business," Telscher said.

A key issue in Thursday's arguments was the publicity rights of MLB players. Seitz argued that fantasy leagues are similar to a company that steals a player's image to sell coffee cups or posters. Without using the players' names, fantasy leagues would be an unprofitable game of statistics crunching, she said.

"There is much less interest in predicting the crime rates of major American cities," she said.

Telscher said fantasy leagues were not unlike newspapers, which use sports players' names in their pages to draw readers. He said customers paid to use CBC's Web site because it automatically process statistics for them, so the company essentially conveys public information.

"There's not any affidavit from players who say they feel like they have been damaged" by fantasy leagues, Telscher said.
The judges adjourned by saying they would consider the arguments before ruling.
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All I can say is I'll never spend another penny to support MLB, the NFL, or any other sport.

Not only are these people alienating current fans, they are chasing off future generations with their greed. I hope these people fail, and fail miserably, and that the next time there is a strike or scandal, that people don't forgive them and come back.

It breaks my heart, baseball is a serious passion of mine, and considering the dwindling support for it with our youth, and the growing support for the NBA and soccer, etc.....you'd think these people would be doing everything they could to promote baseball.



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I've mentioned on these forums before that I'm not into watching a lot of sports. When I have watched games, it's either in person or rarely at all. I lost my love of professional sports back in 1990. I was just back from Panama and a tour to Korea, without my wife of 1 year and my 4 month old daughter, was looming on the horizon. I was watching ESPN, catching up on my Atlanta Braves, when I heard an interview with one of the players who effectively said that he deserved 3 million a year because no one in the world has to work as hard, have so much of their body used up and no one devoted as much to their career as professional athletes.

Thinking that was a single individual who thought that way, I continued to watch sports until 1994. Having lost some very good friends in Somalia, I was infuriated when Baseball players went on strike. Realizing that a good many players were in the lower brackets for compensation, I thought it could have merit. Then, in paying close attention to the players of my beloved football teams, I decided I hated all professional sports where players make millions. If the players didn't make millions, it was the leagues fault and not a lack of ability on the players part.

So on and so forth, ad grotesqueness.

Now I don't watch them, go to their games or support them in any other fashion.

Give me a good little league or highschool baseball/football game any day.



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What boneheads the MLB are! That's all I have to say.



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