HL's OC experience with INTEL's Core 2 Duo E6850

[duckingzebra]

i can understand how that would piss off anyone that has ever overclocked. Having a cpu with a known limit, if thats what it is. But the thing is, intels not really gonna care if they dont want you to overclock to begin with, are they?

[qazwsx]

yeah i guess not, but one of the main advantages of the C2D was the ability to overclock so well. I guess your right, its doing what you paid for it to do and anything else is a bounes not to be relied upon

[OCNoob]

It's how far that's important here. With a 415 MHz FSB limit, the CPU's not a good OC test chip for motherboards. These days, the top boards can go 500+ MHz, and so exploring the OC boundaries of a mobo are limited by the apparent bug.

Also, is it technically "overclocking" if the overall CPU speed is slower than stock speeds? Capper made a great point of how the FSB is limited on all multi's, even when the CPU was underclocked.

[duckingzebra]

I'm not arguing that that doesn't suck, im just saying, intels not going to care. As long as it does what the say it does, there not going to care that it doesn't do what you want it to. thats all im saying.

[Capper]

Originally Posted by OCNoob

It's how far that's important here. With a 415 MHz FSB limit, the CPU's not a good OC test chip for motherboards. These days, the top boards can go 500+ MHz, and so exploring the OC boundaries of a mobo are limited by the apparent bug.

Also, is it technically "overclocking" if the overall CPU speed is slower than stock speeds? Capper made a great point of how the FSB is limited on all multi's, even when the CPU was underclocked.

Exactly.....overclocking is always a crap shoot, thats not my argument.....my main argument was not even the FSB issue.....my rant was mainly about having a bad day, why, and what a dickhead the INTEL Marketing director is. This is the same guy that completely blew off HL at CES when we had a scheduled meeting.


On the flip side, I'm running an QX6850 at 3.7GHz (370x10) with an old generic water cooling loop made for a single core processor. (I'm not spending any money until after I get my wife something special for our anniversary next week)....back to my point.......A lot of the reviews I've seen with the QX6850 have itr topping out at 3.3GHZ to 3.66GHz, and I know with a better cooling solution this thing will see 4GHz.

[RangerXLT8]

For simple watercooling and the quad core 370FSB is at the higher end of what most folks are getting. Alot of the non high-end boards are having problems with the quads at around 370FSB....

[killswitch83]

Originally Posted by Capper

Exactly.....overclocking is always a crap shoot, thats not my argument.....my main argument was not even the FSB issue.....my rant was mainly about having a bad day, why, and what a dickhead the INTEL Marketing director is. This is the same guy that completely blew off HL at CES when we had a scheduled meeting.

well, now my reason for sticking with AMD for the moment is justified I feel (not to mention I'm broke and completely happy with a "matured" architecture, roflol).....but still, for me part of the cost of any PC component would be the "back-end", the customer service. If you have crappy customer service and/or dickheads acting in high offices, like in said example here, it's not worth buying from that manufacturer...And as for them blowing you off @ CES Rich, that was just screwed up....wonder how execs at other levels will react to this article if it started spreading.......?

[duckingzebra]

Well the people at intel sure seem like major dickheads, buti still can wait to get my hand on my quad core system. Ill give the dickheads some of my money, but if my stuff dont work they'll have to answer to the zebra :) and hell duck down and poop on the dickheads.

[One4yu2c]

Chances are high that AMD would likely have been just as unresponsive. Part of the overall picture that Capper's attempting to point out is the disparity in how the few major review sites are treated ([H]ardOCP, Anantech, XBitlabs, etc) versus sites with a more modest traffic base. It's a whole other world writing hardware/software reviews, a topic I'd like to eventually do an Editorial piece about.

[killswitch83]

I think that'd be a good idea man, because just from what I know of it, it isn't a very easy thing to do.......considering you have to balance out the review (good/bad/just plain ugly), not to mention the man hours and research that goes into it as well. It would be an excellent editorial to write!

But to the topic at hand, yeah I can see where larger sites hold more sway than sites like us.......higher traffic, coupled with a larger "stick" so to speak, would warrant that in the manufacturers' eyes.