HardwareLogic

Go Back   HardwareLogic > General Discussions > Troubleshooting
Home Forums Rules All AlbumsBlogs Donate Subscriptions Register Mark Forums Read vBExperience

Troubleshooting Need help figuring out what went wrong? Wanna know where you screwed up?

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old May 2nd, 2008   #1
Colonel Calamity
Points: 16,047, Level: 81
Points: 16,047, Level: 81 Points: 16,047, Level: 81 Points: 16,047, Level: 81
Activity: 100%
Activity: 100% Activity: 100% Activity: 100%
 
screwballl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Sandy South
Posts: 5,893
Blog Entries: 6
Default one way to fix Sapphire AGP video cards

My dad was recently having major issues with his brand new video card, it is a Sapphire HD2600Pro AGP video card. The drivers from the CD partially worked and one set of drivers from the sapphire page barely worked... but only if he stayed on the desktop... as soon as any program used D3D or put any strain on the video card, it would either crash or give jumbled graphics.
So we tried all sorts of things, tried Sapphire drivers (the AGP hotfix ones), tried ATI drivers, tried checking BIOS settings, nothing was working. The main problem with MOST drivers was that during the driver installation, it kept throwing up the error "could not find a card compatible with these drivers". The main reason being it was looking for a PCIe card, not an AGP card...
So after the past month of troubleshooting, I had a wild thought to try AGP drivers from another company. If that doesn't work then he has a bad video card. So we installed drivers 8.3n from the visiontek website (LINK)... and what do you know... it worked. Not only did it install but it allowed full hardware acceleration and all his games including CS:S worked flawlessly and at better framerates than his old nvidia 6200. No crashes, no jumbled screens, no problems.

Now the bad part: I tried to post this fix on the sapphire forums letting people know that this is one possible fix that worked well for me. What happens? I get temporarily banned for "spamming" the forums... I posted it in 5 different places under relevant topics.
Based on the moderator actions and private messages, it is ok for people to suggest modifying the AGP voltage and card BIOS which can not only fry the video card but void the warranty but it is not ok to post a link to some drivers that actually fix the crap that they themselves refuse to fix???

From this point on I refuse to purchase Sapphire products. They want your money but do not want to support it.

This is my personal experience and my personal opinion, it is your choice how you use this information.







Thanks HL and Corsair!

My opinions are my own and not representative of this site or its members.

screwballl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 2nd, 2008   #2
socket 939 junkie
Points: 6,543, Level: 52
Points: 6,543, Level: 52 Points: 6,543, Level: 52 Points: 6,543, Level: 52
Activity: 57%
Activity: 57% Activity: 57% Activity: 57%
 
simple_inhibition's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: In front of my pc in Ft Bragg XD
Posts: 1,400
Blog Entries: 1
Default Re: one way to fix Sapphire AGP video cards

that greengecko guy over at the sapphire forums is a real prick. his attitude is costing sapphire customers.



E8400 @ 4ghz (500x8 @ 1.35v)
Gigabyte X38-DQ6
2x2GB G-Skill DDR2 1000 @ DDR2 1000 5-5-5-15 2.1v
2 Sapphire ATi Radeon HD3870 in Crossfire
Seagate 7200.11 500GB 32MB Cache HDD
Audigy 2 ZS Gamer
Silverstone DA750
Samsung Dual Layer DVD Burner
Lian Li G70WB
Thermochill PA120.3|Swiftech Storm Rev.2|Swiftech MCP 655
simple_inhibition is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 2nd, 2008   #3
Modder-ator
Points: 18,549, Level: 86
Points: 18,549, Level: 86 Points: 18,549, Level: 86 Points: 18,549, Level: 86
Activity: 11%
Activity: 11% Activity: 11% Activity: 11%
 
gvblake22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Tempe Desert
Posts: 6,199
Blog Entries: 1
Default Re: one way to fix Sapphire AGP video cards

I've only owned one Sapphire card and I sold it a few months later. It worked ok, but wasn't anything special. Frankly, the only ATI card I'll buy from is Vistiontek since they are the only ones confident enough to stand behind their video cards with a lifetime warranty.



gvblake22 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 2nd, 2008   #4
Colonel Calamity
Points: 16,047, Level: 81
Points: 16,047, Level: 81 Points: 16,047, Level: 81 Points: 16,047, Level: 81
Activity: 100%
Activity: 100% Activity: 100% Activity: 100%
 
screwballl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Sandy South
Posts: 5,893
Blog Entries: 6
Default Re: one way to fix Sapphire AGP video cards

I have one sapphire card myself, my X1950GT PCIe. I always used ATI's drivers so never had to deal with Sapphire's crap until now.







Thanks HL and Corsair!

My opinions are my own and not representative of this site or its members.

screwballl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 2nd, 2008   #5
Deus Sol Invictus
Points: 11,869, Level: 71
Points: 11,869, Level: 71 Points: 11,869, Level: 71 Points: 11,869, Level: 71
Activity: 100%
Activity: 100% Activity: 100% Activity: 100%
 
polobunny's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 4,278
Blog Entries: 5
Default Re: one way to fix Sapphire AGP video cards

Quote:
Originally Posted by screwballl View Post
I have one sapphire card myself, my X1950GT PCIe. I always used ATI's drivers so never had to deal with Sapphire's crap until now.
Why not use ATI drivers for this one then?

Edit: Ah missed the part about you trying them.
I've had certain issues myself with ATI drivers, mostly the WDM ones. Over a certain version number I couldn't change input resolution anymore, giving me a quite terrible picture quality (320x240 when it could do 720x480...).
Gotta hate fiddling with graphics drivers. :/




If there is a final hour, let's hope for a higher power. One by one, and two by two, I have ammo, what about you?

Last edited by polobunny; May 2nd, 2008 at 11:44.
polobunny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 2nd, 2008   #6
Neigh.
Points: 6,560, Level: 53
Points: 6,560, Level: 53 Points: 6,560, Level: 53 Points: 6,560, Level: 53
Activity: 83%
Activity: 83% Activity: 83% Activity: 83%
 
drew and not u's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: where do you friggin live??
Posts: 1,451
Default Re: one way to fix Sapphire AGP video cards

Do you mean you posted that in 5 different places on the sapphire forums? If so then that kinda sounds like spamming to me.

And in my experience that's par for the course for ATI drivers.



P5K-E / E8400 @ 4.0 / 2GB Hyper-X DDR2 / 7800GT / Antec900 / Scythe Ninja Copper (soon to be custom h2o)
P5W DH Deluxe / E7200 @ 3.8 / 2GB Ballistix DDR2-800 / 7600GT (passive) / P180B / Zalman Reserator V2
Dual-ISP Network
aim: drewandnotu | Skype: drew-and-not-u

Last edited by drew and not u; May 2nd, 2008 at 12:00.
drew and not u is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 2nd, 2008   #7
Lvl 1 College Student
Points: 8,034, Level: 60
Points: 8,034, Level: 60 Points: 8,034, Level: 60 Points: 8,034, Level: 60
Activity: 50%
Activity: 50% Activity: 50% Activity: 50%
 
Zambini's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: St. Mere du SantaCruz
Posts: 1,708
Default Re: one way to fix Sapphire AGP video cards

I'm sorry, you're now banned from our forums for spamming.



lol.

I have a sapphire x1950 that I have yet to sell since my 8800 purchase... And that will be the last one I had





Zambini is online now   Reply With Quote
Old May 2nd, 2008   #8
Colonel Calamity
Points: 16,047, Level: 81
Points: 16,047, Level: 81 Points: 16,047, Level: 81 Points: 16,047, Level: 81
Activity: 100%
Activity: 100% Activity: 100% Activity: 100%
 
screwballl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Sandy South
Posts: 5,893
Blog Entries: 6
Default Re: one way to fix Sapphire AGP video cards

shhhhh I have 56 in 2 days here (including this post)







Thanks HL and Corsair!

My opinions are my own and not representative of this site or its members.

screwballl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 2nd, 2008   #9
HardwareLogic's Otis Campbell (retired from Mayberry)
Points: 9,449, Level: 65
Points: 9,449, Level: 65 Points: 9,449, Level: 65 Points: 9,449, Level: 65
Activity: 74%
Activity: 74% Activity: 74% Activity: 74%
 
stinger608's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: 1936-2006
Posts: 2,413
Blog Entries: 1
Default Re: one way to fix Sapphire AGP video cards

Quote:
Originally Posted by screwballl View Post
shhhhh I have 56 in 2 days here (including this post)
I meant to talk to you about that!!! This is waaaaaaaaay to many posts here Screwy:l augh:



stinger608 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 2nd, 2008   #10
I'm Diggin it!
Points: 10,436, Level: 67
Points: 10,436, Level: 67 Points: 10,436, Level: 67 Points: 10,436, Level: 67
Activity: 14%
Activity: 14% Activity: 14% Activity: 14%
 
Quakindude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Fort Rucker, AL.
Posts: 2,678
Blog Entries: 6
Default Re: one way to fix Sapphire AGP video cards

I had some pretty crappy experiences with ATi drivers all through the 90's. The last time I had a set of drivers directly from ATI that fried my card. I dropped ATI at that point and haven't bought their products for my desktops since then. My laptop has an ATI part in it, but that was due to lack of options than personal choice.



Q6600@ 3.2GHz w/ CNPS9700 | EVGA 780i | 2Gb Corsair DDR2-800 | EVGA 9800GTX 512 Video | 1x WD 640Gb HDD, 2x Seagate 400Gb HDD, 1x250Gb WD | 2x Samsung SH-203B Opticals | Antec 900 | ABS/Tagan BZ700 700W PSU



Quakindude is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

  HardwareLogic > General Discussions > Troubleshooting

Tags
sapphire, video card


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Good graphics cards for video playback Yellowhello Graphics 4 April 26th, 2007 09:26
Video CArds!!!XD manisare Graphics 29 March 20th, 2007 16:09
If Crucial can make video cards, so can OCZ! gvblake22 Graphics 16 December 7th, 2006 17:44
Two video cards or one? ridesn0w41 Graphics 18 May 16th, 2006 18:57
Sapphire X1900 Crossfire Edition Video Card Review Capper Graphics 16 March 19th, 2006 19:37


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 00:39.


Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.1.0
© HardwareLogic 2005 - 2008. All Rights Reserved


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45