How much faster would SATA be

Dynesh · March 22nd, 2007

Right now I have a 250 gig western digital as my main hard drive. It has an 8 mb buffer I think. And its IDE. The best I can find in my research is that the transfer rate for IDE is 16 Mbs. And that SATA is like 3 gigs a second.

Is that right, or am I looking at the wrong things. And if this is so, would getting one speed up my programs opening and what not considerably, or should I just worry about getting a raptor, and sacrificing storage space?

[Dr. V] · March 22nd, 2007

raptor 74GB as your primary drive and have that 250GB as your storage drive (ONLY install games and programs on your raptor(s))

and in terms of your original question, the raptor idea is way more ideal. I dont think youll notice enough of an increase from 7200RPM IDE to 7200RPM SATA (although there will be some) but the RAPTORS - WOW!

-cheers

Dynesh · March 22nd, 2007

Ok, thanks for the reply. I was hoping SATA would be a lot faster, but oh well. I guess I have to save up and try and get two 74 gig drives, cause I would eat up 74 gigs in a heartbeat.

screwballl · March 22nd, 2007

the 74GB would be used as the main boot drive and the 250GB+ for storage of everything else... there is no use kicking up to multiple raptors for storage duty for stuff you will not access every day.

[Dr. V] · March 22nd, 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by screwballl

the 74GB would be used as the main boot drive and the 250GB+ for storage of everything else... there is no use kicking up to multiple raptors for storage duty for stuff you will not access every day.

yep. You gotta recycle the 250GB you have now as a storage drive. By no means should you switch only to raptors.

**gvblake22** · March 22nd, 2007

First off, it's not the interface that is going to give you a speed boost, it is the physical drive. Yeah the SATA interface has much, much more bandwidth available, but current hard drives can hardly even fully saturate the bandwidth of a regular PATA interface, let alone come close to utilizing the 3GB/s of SATAII bandwidth. So right now, the drives themselves just aren't very fast, but the SATA interface gives the technology room to grow so when faster drives to appear (like solid state drives), then they will have room to stretch their legs and use the bandwidth available.

Second, as Screwballl mentioned, there is no need for the two Raptors. Just use one (if you want) for your primary OS and application drive and then use the 250GB drive as your mass storage and backup drive for things you don't need exceptionally fast access to (like pictures, movies, music, etc). I ran that exact setup for a very long time and it works quite well.

Lastly, especially if you would like a little more storage on your primary drive and want to save some money, you might also want to consider other high-end 7200rpm SATA hard drives that are fast like the Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 series drives. They have NCQ, a 16MB cache buffer, and perpendicular recording technology. When comparing the price per gigabyte on the 7200.10 Barracudas to the Raptor it is no contest. You really get so much more with a fast, high capacity 7200rpm drive than you do with a 10000rpm Raptor. But if you want the absolute best performance and size and price aren't of huge concern, then there is no other choice than to snag yourself a new 74GB or 150GB Raptor with 16MB cache.

screwballl · March 22nd, 2007

I did notice a nice boost in everyday activities with this 320GB Seagate 7200.10 like mentioned above... previous was a plain 160GB WD Caviar

Lead Head · March 22nd, 2007

IDE ATA100/133 is 100/133 MB/s, SATA1 is 150MB/s and SATA2 is 300MB/s

They report it as 3Gigabits per second, to make it LOOK faster

[Dr. V] · March 22nd, 2007

gigaBITS

not gigaBYTES

its the same for internet connections.

its not worth the upgrade for you at this point unless ur gonna do one raptor as main drive and ur existing one for storage.

Lead Head · March 22nd, 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by ST!X

gigaBITS

not gigaBYTES

its the same for internet connections.

its not worth the upgrade for you at this point unless ur gonna do one raptor as main drive and ur existing one for storage.

PATA, is reported in MegaBytes per second, SATA1 is 150 Megabytes per second, and SATA2 is around 300 Megabytes per second. But they said 3Gigabites per second to make it sound REALLY fast

March 22nd, 2007	#1
Dynesh Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 31	How much faster would SATA be Right now I have a 250 gig western digital as my main hard drive. It has an 8 mb buffer I think. And its IDE. The best I can find in my research is that the transfer rate for IDE is 16 Mbs. And that SATA is like 3 gigs a second. Is that right, or am I looking at the wrong things. And if this is so, would getting one speed up my programs opening and what not considerably, or should I just worry about getting a raptor, and sacrificing storage space? dual core E6600 Geforce 8800GTS Asus P5W DH Deluxe Motherboard OCZ Gamextreme 600w PSU OCZ Platinum DDR2 800 2Gigs 250 Gig 7200 RPM WD Harddrive OCZ GameXStream 600w

March 22nd, 2007	#2
[Dr. V] Yes - the Doctor is back. Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,637	Re: How much faster would SATA be raptor 74GB as your primary drive and have that 250GB as your storage drive (ONLY install games and programs on your raptor(s)) and in terms of your original question, the raptor idea is way more ideal. I dont think youll notice enough of an increase from 7200RPM IDE to 7200RPM SATA (although there will be some) but the RAPTORS - WOW! -cheers Last edited by gvblake22; March 22nd, 2007 at 15:16. Reason: Please try and spell "your" correctly

March 22nd, 2007	#3
Dynesh Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 31	Re: How much faster would SATA be Ok, thanks for the reply. I was hoping SATA would be a lot faster, but oh well. I guess I have to save up and try and get two 74 gig drives, cause I would eat up 74 gigs in a heartbeat. dual core E6600 Geforce 8800GTS Asus P5W DH Deluxe Motherboard OCZ Gamextreme 600w PSU OCZ Platinum DDR2 800 2Gigs 250 Gig 7200 RPM WD Harddrive OCZ GameXStream 600w

March 22nd, 2007	#4
screwballl Colonel Calamity Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sandy South Posts: 6,279 Blog Entries: 6	Re: How much faster would SATA be the 74GB would be used as the main boot drive and the 250GB+ for storage of everything else... there is no use kicking up to multiple raptors for storage duty for stuff you will not access every day. Thanks HL and Corsair! My opinions are my own and not representative of this site or its members.

March 22nd, 2007	#6
gvblake22 Modder-ator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tempe Desert Posts: 6,356 Blog Entries: 1	Re: How much faster would SATA be First off, it's not the interface that is going to give you a speed boost, it is the physical drive. Yeah the SATA interface has much, much more bandwidth available, but current hard drives can hardly even fully saturate the bandwidth of a regular PATA interface, let alone come close to utilizing the 3GB/s of SATAII bandwidth. So right now, the drives themselves just aren't very fast, but the SATA interface gives the technology room to grow so when faster drives to appear (like solid state drives), then they will have room to stretch their legs and use the bandwidth available. Second, as Screwballl mentioned, there is no need for the two Raptors. Just use one (if you want) for your primary OS and application drive and then use the 250GB drive as your mass storage and backup drive for things you don't need exceptionally fast access to (like pictures, movies, music, etc). I ran that exact setup for a very long time and it works quite well. Lastly, especially if you would like a little more storage on your primary drive and want to save some money, you might also want to consider other high-end 7200rpm SATA hard drives that are fast like the Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 series drives. They have NCQ, a 16MB cache buffer, and perpendicular recording technology. When comparing the price per gigabyte on the 7200.10 Barracudas to the Raptor it is no contest. You really get so much more with a fast, high capacity 7200rpm drive than you do with a 10000rpm Raptor. But if you want the absolute best performance and size and price aren't of huge concern, then there is no other choice than to snag yourself a new 74GB or 150GB Raptor with 16MB cache.

March 22nd, 2007	#7
screwballl Colonel Calamity Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sandy South Posts: 6,279 Blog Entries: 6	Re: How much faster would SATA be I did notice a nice boost in everyday activities with this 320GB Seagate 7200.10 like mentioned above... previous was a plain 160GB WD Caviar Thanks HL and Corsair! My opinions are my own and not representative of this site or its members.

March 22nd, 2007	#8
Lead Head Join Date: May 2006 Location: Rhode Island USA Posts: 1,716	Re: How much faster would SATA be IDE ATA100/133 is 100/133 MB/s, SATA1 is 150MB/s and SATA2 is 300MB/s They report it as 3Gigabits per second, to make it LOOK faster Opteron 64 165--1.5GB DDR--ECS KA1 MVP(thanks HL!)--x1800GTO 256MB--Seagate 320GB SATA--Antec 550 Watt--Antec P180

March 22nd, 2007	#9
[Dr. V] Yes - the Doctor is back. Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,637	Re: How much faster would SATA be gigaBITS not gigaBYTES its the same for internet connections. its not worth the upgrade for you at this point unless ur gonna do one raptor as main drive and ur existing one for storage.

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