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Default 2 dual burners at once question!!

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I have 2 dual DVD burners that I use with nero I am able to burn 2 dvd's at once no problem but it's when nero verifies the dvd's that everything happens soon as I move the mouse to disable the screensaver it takes like 5 minutes for my system to react and when it comes back all the windows or whatever is open gets dragged all over the screen I usually have to reset the computer

the burners are both sata Pioneer DVR-212D 18x

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during the verification it has to verify all the written files with those that originated on the hard drive... if both are doing it at the same time, this is keeping the hard drive so busy that it is no wonder that windows itself is not responding.
Just wait until it completely finishes and eject the discs... then try the computer... if it still does it then you may have a hard drive on the way out







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Exactly, it doesn't matter how fast your processor is, your hard drive and optical drives are only so fast and will be the obvious bottleneck in performance here. It can only verify the data as fast as the disk can be read. And we all know optical drives are not known for blazing fast speeds, that's for sure!



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All my drives are 1 week old Seagate 500 se
I will let it do it's job overnight and see what happens in the morning

One more thing what is better in my case IDE or SATA burners???

Shite I just opened HD tune and 2 of my drives are above 55 almost 60

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All my drives are 1 week old Seagate 500 se
I will let it do it's job overnight and see what happens in the morning

One more thing what is better in my case IDE or SATA burners???

Shite I just opened HD tune and 2 of my drives are above 55 almost 60

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IDE vs. SATA for optical drives does not really matter, as Optical drives have yet to reach the bandwidth limit of IDE66. Are your hard drives in any form of RAID? Or are they just connected to your computer as their own volume of space? I'm not quite sure which hard drive you have though? There are 500GB Seagate Baracuda 7200.X drives, and Western Digital Caviar SE drives, which one do you have? As for temps, 55-60*C is EXTREMELY hot for a hard drive, I wouldn't expect a drive to last too long at temps like that, get some cooling on those drives ASAP



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As for temps, 55-60*C is EXTREMELY hot for a hard drive, I wouldn't expect a drive to last too long at temps like that, get some cooling on those drives ASAP
I have the Antec p180 case and I have 4 drives at the bottom so i can't but any fan there!!! all my drive are it's own storage no raid 0

2 Seagate Barracuda ES 500GB SATA
2 Seagate Barracuda IDE

And I am having a temp problem in my other computer with a Seagate Barracuda 500GB IDE it's readin 58 and I have a duct right above the drive section!!!

Are these drives known to run hot like that??



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I have a Seagate 7200.1 80GB, and a 7200.10 320GB, right now they are at 34 and 36*C. They are also side by side in the lower chamber of my P180.

The P180 does have a fan down there though, its on the other side of the metal divider, on the PSU side? Or did you have to remove this fan?



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Don't freak out, 55-60c is not thermal meltdown like LeadHead might have you believe. I have 5 HD's that are close to each other and have run between 50-60c for the past 4 years with out any issues. Not to mention it's summer time, so unless you have AC in your house all your temps will be a tad hotter then normal. If you can get some fans on your HDs or split them up in the case then you should try to do that.




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All my drives are 1 week old Seagate 500 se
I will let it do it's job overnight and see what happens in the morning

One more thing what is better in my case IDE or SATA burners???

Shite I just opened HD tune and 2 of my drives are above 55 almost 60

Thanks!!
Frenchie,

OK, first things first (bot really). You want to limit HD temps to ~50C or less if at all possible. If I read correctly, you have 4 HDs and no RAID? With over a terrabyte of storage? Are you making a sequel to LOTR or something? More is not always better. If you are not running raid, 2x500GB drives is plenty. If you are running raid than 3 drives is plenty. I would suggest keeping a bay space between them for cooling.

If you must have all these drives, you are going to want to look into better cooling options soon.

Next, the Optical issues. What they say above is correct. I would add:

Turn verification off on one drive (as long as you can verify it later). Turn off the powersaving mode while you are doing this - and if you are running a distrubuted client while you are doing this, turn it off as well (like folding).

Try not to have both opticals in the same IDE channel either. If Nero will let you do it, don't burn the same file from the same drive at the same time. Make a copy on another drive and burn it that way. That way, when you hit verification you are not pounding on a single file on a single drive.

That's may entire 2 pennies.

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Don't freak out, 55-60c is not thermal meltdown like LeadHead might have you believe. I have 5 HD's that are close to each other and have run between 50-60c for the past 4 years with out any issues. Not to mention it's summer time, so unless you have AC in your house all your temps will be a tad hotter then normal. If you can get some fans on your HDs or split them up in the case then you should try to do that.
What he says ^^^^^^^^^

But still, cooling them is better.

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What he says ^^^^^^^^^

But still, cooling them is better.

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Oh yes, try to get them cooler. Just saying this time of year those temps aren't abnormal.




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