AMD not the only one with problems

[screwballl]

DailyTech - Intel Explains 45nm Delays, Errata

During a simulation, at high clock frequencies, we noticed an increase of potential failures after a designated amount of time."

So Penryn is just as prone to problems as the Phenom is.... so much for that pedestal that people have put intel on

[Capper]

Theres a pretty big difference you are ignoring.......Intel's been supplying pretty much all of the enthusiast parts over the past 18 months, and the C2D was a huge success......running into an issue with their new 45nm (Remember AMD is still at 65nm and having problems) processors isn't nearly as big a deal.....if anything it takes their boot off AMD's throat for a day or two.

Also, lets look at the fact they haven't released these processors yet, instead looking at the issue and pushing the release back a couple of weeks to a month to address the issue.....instead of releasing the processors with a known issue.

Then again, to hear [H]ard paint it, the erratum issue is really a non issue anyway, although there are other sites who will contest that point of view.

[screwballl]

right... from much of the info I have seen, Phenom is just a stopgap until they release their 45nm line where they will try to get competitive again instead of just supplying mainstream parts and not high end parts.

[Capper]

Thats their excuse......Think back about 4-6 months.....all the hot air AMD was blowing, the media hype, and people calling Phenom the "Core 2 Killer"........now its a stopgap? Thats weak sauce on their part, and they should be embarrassed after all the talk.

[screwballl]

yeah... PR and ego always have a bit too much play in this industry... I remember Intel still claiming their procs were the best during the Athlon/P4 days

[Capper]

The P4's were fine until they released the Prescott's, which were awful.
Until AMD released the s939, they were basically just a fan boi/budget option.....the s939 processors were a fantastic product.

[onebxr]

the s939 is still a fantastic product!
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[Dr. V]

Originally Posted by Capper

The P4's were fine until they released the Prescott's, which were awful.
Until AMD released the s939, they were basically just a fan boi/budget option.....the s939 processors were a fantastic product.

Couldn't have said it better.

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[azianai]

And with that intel reported to be under estimates in the 4th quarter and 1st quarter means they helped to drag the economy down further. DOWN WITH INTEL!! j/k. Even the Success of the C2Duo can't make everything gravy. Im sure they'll figure out these processors sooner or later. Btw prescotts totally blow! Literally i had one blow up on me =D

[One4yu2c]

Originally Posted by azianai

And with that intel reported to be under estimates in the 4th quarter

By a scant 2 cents/share, though Wall Street walloped 'em for it.

ABC News: Wall Street Pounds Intel on 4Q Results