Political Discussion Thread: McCain or Obama?

[azianai]

mccain, but NY's been true blue forever, so it doesn't matter.
and there's enough liberal college kids drinking the obama koolaid here too

[simple_inhibition]

voting McCain. Obama has no experience and in my eyes is a socialist. his spread the wealth and free healthcare for all and his gun control is the underpinnings of a socialist state. on top of all of that, hes associated himself with too many shady charactors. definitely not a man i want in the most powerful seat in the world. obama + nancy pelosi = United Socialist States of America

Biden pretty much gave the world a free sucker punch towards America with his "the world will test barrack obama in 6 month" comment. hes worse than Palin when it comes to dumbass comments and only proves the utter lack of understanding to the gravity of the situation we the people of the United States of America now find ourselves in. Palin may not have the experience, but i dont see her laughing off a serious question/comment brought on by a foreign leader where as Biden cant even do that towards a reporter who had every right to ask that question. its called the first amendment, freedom of speech at its finest ladies and gentleman!

[Jokerswild]

This is like tuning into FAUX so called news.

[Hitman]

Originally Posted by garetjax

Other than the fact that they were all assassinated?

You cheated, I already told you the answer.

Originally Posted by garetjax

What is ironic is the fact that I know firsthand how tough it is to make ends meet while in the military. I knew many military families that were considered "low income" and were barely scratching a living and living paycheck to paycheck.

The fact is, military pay isn't all that great, and if what you say is true, Joe, then making military families pay for health care on their own will only serve to fulfill two things:

1) No one will want to enlist or serve in the military knowing that the government doesn't have their backs when it comes to health care, (especially considering that we're still at war), and

2) A total and complete meltdown of the United States health care system. It's bad enough that there are so many serious problems with America's health care system right now. But if there are plans of taking away free military health care, this will only serve to really muddy the waters even further.

The Military Members will still get free duty related healthcare, but will have to start paying for their families at a rate similar to Civilian Healthcare insurance.

[Capper]

The Military Members will still get free duty related healthcare, but will have to start paying for their families at a rate similar to Civilian Healthcare insurance.

Then its about time they start paying them at a civilian level too.

[Hitman]

Originally Posted by Jokerswild

This is like tuning into FAUX so called news.

Its funny how liberals always bring up FOX news as being Conservative biased, but leave out the other 4 liberal biased news networks. That would be like crying about CNN every time we hear something negative about McCain. Obama is always crying about negative press from FOX news, but you never once hear McCain cry about all the negative press him and Palin get from every other news outlet on the planet.

While we are on the subject of biased news, it sure is ironic that hanging a dummy of Sarah Palin by a noose is “Just in Bad Taste” but if it was Obama it would be considered a hate crime. Since when do you have to be black to be a victim of a hate crime? Didn’t know there was a race requirement.

[garetjax]

Originally Posted by Capper

Then its about time they start paying them at a civilian level too.

Damn straight!

Originally Posted by simple_inhibition

[Biden's] worse than Palin when it comes to dumbass comments and only proves the utter lack of understanding to the gravity of the situation we the people of the United States of America now find ourselves in.

Not to change the subject, but this could be applied to our current Commander in Chief as well...

[Capper]

I voted for W. twice, and I have to admit I'm embarrassed. I'm not sure Kerry or Gore could have or would have done any better. I think W. is a good guy who surrounded himself with idiots and scumbags, but at some point you have to take responsibility for things.

Our problems go well beyond the President, and people should not forget their Senators, Congressmen, and other elected representatives when passing around blame.

[Carl Martin]

Have to agree with Hitman on this one. Yesterday morning I was listening to the news on NPR for a change, and every story about the elections began with a piece about Obama. McCain was second every time.



This morning I checked out Google News. They've been pro-Obama for some time now, but today took the cake: every story posted was about Obama with nothing about McCain.



Hard to argue against bias there.

Carl

[OcciferFriendly]

Originally Posted by Capper

I voted for W. twice, and I have to admit I'm embarrassed. I'm not sure Kerry or Gore could have or would have done any better. I think W. is a good guy who surrounded himself with idiots and scumbags, but at some point you have to take responsibility for things.

Our problems go well beyond the President, and people should not forget their Senators, Congressmen, and other elected representatives when passing around blame.

That was W's central problem, he knew to trust his experts, he just managed to be the worst judge of talent ever - his experts were quite often morons. He compounded that by staying loyal to them when they didn't deserve it.

Your second paragraph cannot be said enough:
Our problems go well beyond the President, and people should not forget their Senators, Congressmen, and other elected representatives when passing around blame.

Indeed. Congress as a whole had a what, 9% approval rating? Not a one of those bums should be re-elected.