Opens can of worms....Global Warming

[screwballl]

sorry to dig this back up but I think we should keep the discussion going

I was diggin up info on both sides and found this very long series of stories of how the IPCC has literally screwed with science and announced their own conclusions, even without any proper studies.

as of right now there are 38 parts to it that debunk almost every single political based global warming conspiracy out there

Climate change: The deniers - Posted

[Reloadron]

Originally Posted by screwballl

sorry to dig this back up but I think we should keep the discussion going

I was diggin up info on both sides and found this very long series of stories of how the IPCC has literally screwed with science and announced their own conclusions, even without any proper studies.

as of right now there are 38 parts to it that debunk almost every single political based global warming conspiracy out there

Climate change: The deniers - Posted

Like Lazarus it is back from the dead.

For what it's worth:

There's battle lines being drawn
Nobody's right if everybody's wrong
Young people speaking their minds
Getting so much resistance from behind
I think it's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away

This is one of those wonderful no win or lose subjects. Each side will present facts and the opposing side will dispell those facts with new facts. This leads to an endless collection of questionable facts as to if all the facts are really factual. Makes for headaches.

Ron

[Jokerswild]

none here

[Reloadron]

Buffalo Springfield and later CSNY (Crosby Stills Nash and Young). Was a great tune and the phrase "Nobody's right" came to mind. Great images in the video too. Memories...

Ron

[MantaBase]

Awesome - perfect song.

I kinda forgot about full circle. I think I just kinda for got in general :)

Thanks!

[screwballl]

the main problem I see is that these old codgers are pushing all this global warming crap all over that the young generation being impressionable picks up on it. By the time they are of age to do something, it could cause some major problems with the global economy because they are so busy trying to fix the environment that they are slacking on other more important issues. It is already starting this way with some of the current government in this country.

[PTRMAN]

Screwball - I was looking at the first part and came across this quote. It seems to sum up the "global warming is our fault" crowd perfectly - they "feel" like its our fault so it must be so (forget the idea of thinking rationally or relying on facts!)

"Mann's hockey-stick graph may be wrong, many experts now acknowledge, but they assert that he nevertheless came to the right conclusion."

I've got problems with Mann's cherry-picked "hockey stick" as well as with some of the ways they measure the data, and that's just the start, but what kind of scientist says, well, the facts are just wrong because they don't fit our conclusion? Isn't this like Animal Farm - "four legs good, two legs bad"?

[screwballl]

wow then I guess kangaroos, apes, chimps, monkeys, penguins and at least two types of octopus are really in trouble.

[screwballl]

found another story about the earth going to cool severely due to sunspots disappearing,
DailyTech - Solar Activity Diminishes; Researchers Predict Another Ice Age

if anything, man made global warming should only make the temperature drop an average of 20º instead of 22º

[Beetle Bailey]

So i guess you could say "We are now in a Global Warming Economical Slump."