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Old August 1st, 2008   #511
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The market is pretty choppy right now with scary and uncertain reaction and response.

This is the ultimate time for high dividend paying low P/E ratio stocks that have good liquidity.

It will straiten out after the election and those high yield stocks will triple in value as well as pay out the dividend premium.

P/E picks should be 12 or lower with the best ones between 2-9

Quarterly dividend times 4 divided by current stock price should be over 10% yield per anum.

You might as well have been speaking Russian. I don't know anything after "response."





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P/E = Price of stock in comparison to Earnings [The company actually makes money]

If P/E = 1 ... the company makes a dollar per year for every dollar the share costs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PE_ratio

Liquidity = People buy and sell it a lot because they think it is worth it. [Trades more than 300K shares per day]

High Yield = Makes more money returned than average.

Dividend = Actually pays you cash for your share holdings.

P/E = Ratio of the price of the stock and earnings per share held. [EPS]

Dividend = [Paid quarterly but figured annually ... so if the stock costs a dollar and is paying .25 dividend ... you get a dollar back at 1 year %100 dividend or profits per year. {versus 3% for CD's}

PS: Look at the stocks I have "limit" orders on ... [Waiting to be filled]



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P/E = Price of stock in comparison to Earnings [The company actually makes money]

If P/E = 1 ... the company makes a dollar per year for every dollar the share costs.
P/E ratio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Liquidity = People buy and sell it a lot because they think it is worth it. [Trades more than 300K shares per day]

High Yield = Makes more money returned than average.

Dividend = Actually pays you cash for your share holdings.

P/E = Ratio of the price of the stock and earnings per share held.

Dividend = [Paid quarterly but figured annually ... so if the stock costs a dollar and is paying .25 dividend ... you get a dollar back at 1 year %100 dividend or profits per year. {versus 3% for CD's}

PS: Look at the stocks I have "limit" orders on ... [Waiting to be filled]


Well I'm glad we have someone who knows what they're doing :)





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Just a reminder people. As of today there are 54 days remaining.

Remember, there is a prize to the winner. I am wondering if we should just pay off Tech Geek and ban him from the next contest?

On a serious note Tech Geek has provided some really great investing information and knows his shit. These are difficult times to make a buck and his investing knowledge is cooking right along.

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Ron ... thanks ... The dividend paying stocks that trade over 300K shares per day will be true market winners. [Regardless of the rest of the market for the most part] They are very cheap right now. If the market tanks ... smart money will move there since they are paying 10-24% annually in dividends right now ... if the market grows there will be volumes of "new" money and investors in the market ... and the liquid dividend stocks will gain as much as 300% (Plus the dividend they pay)



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Yet another really bumpy ride today ... huge profits ... huge losses ... and regain some profits. I messed up and traded against news and got stopped out.



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Yet another really bumpy ride today ... huge profits ... huge losses ... and regain some profits. I messed up and traded against news and got stopped out.
And thus the term "Shit Happens". Today made no sense (or cents). Things I looked for to happen never did.

Something I am watching is MDR. I bought into MDR a few days ago at $42. Their earnings come out in a few days and I expect them to go up. They are solid with good credit and have work on the table. I own about 1,000 shares of these guys (yeah, this is not the game) and I hope the hell I am not dissapointed.

Also @ Tech Geek thanks for the prior advice. Soon as I see where MDR goes I will look more into it. Right now in one portifolio I am sitting on cash with the exception of MDR. I sold about 6 weeks ago and glad as hell I did as we would have taken a beating. IEZ was one that was real good to us I bought it last August, and if you look back about 6 weeks you can see where it went to shit as a fund.

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$42 was a good entry price on them. Their technicals as far as charting goes ... doesn't look healthy however. [Unless you are looking for a 4-5 point bounce ... which looks to be the normal bounce off each low for the last 3 mos]

Sounds like your reasoning is fundamental based however. Watch closely 2-3 days before they release their 10Q or earnings report. Believe me ... I have seen dozens and dozens of news releases before they have been released to the public. I have reviewed them as "Drafts" as I was in the position to direct PR or investment communities. [It is very illegal, but happens every day, thousands of times a day.] Thanks be to anonymous electronic fax routing and elaborate security.

Certain technical skills can be learned that can tell you if these unseen activities of accumulation or selling are in the works. Sometimes those in the know "insiders" start adding shares or jumping ship due to their inside knowledge. Also be sure to be available for after hours trading if the need arises.

Do you own a charting package? [Ameritrade has the best free one with an acct.]

Otherwise TeleChart is the way to go.



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Fannie Mae Posts $2.3B Second-Quarter Loss - FOXBusiness.com

Fannie May posting record losses... let them sink... let the whole "credit based" lending sink or at least convert it to "income based" lending.. make $10/hr and already pay $1200/month in bills?? "Sorry you can't afford that $233,000 house".
We will finally see people forced to actually work for what they want and not let them overextend themselves...
yeah I know its a pipe dream...







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Pretty bumpy ride going Long with AHR ...
  • the company has over a 20% yield per anum in paid dividends. [E.G. - The stock owner gets paid cash money at over 20% the current share price for the year. The shares cost about $6 per share now and in 1 year they will make $1.20 or better in paid dividends.]
  • A P/E of 4 and
  • EPS of 1.5 ...
  • it should be trading at $10+ ... since that is its book value.

I haven't researched the company well enough to understand why the price is so low ... but the basic fundamentals and technicals say it is a bargain under $7 and should pop up in a strong market. [Perhaps their parent company is struggling and that affects their market ... or major investors are very cautious of anything to do with loans on real estate and expect much greater defaults.]

I suspect the latter ... but from what I see in their 10Q report ... they have adjusted their expectations of defaults to a higher figure ... and yet are showing greater profits and just paid out a larger dividend than usual. My guess is that people sold who were holding till they got paid their dividend ... then they jumped ship.

If this is true and is a repeated cycle ... then this stock is an incredible winner [If research and the prospectus confirms] ... Buying it at cycles of dividend payout and selling it at peaks. Also accumulating it based on systems that produce free or cheap ownership of said stock.



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