The American War???

[Capper]

Originally Posted by Jokerswild

Oh no the next thing you know someone is going to say the Bush Presidency has been faked and Hillary has been running the country the last 8 years.

No, but shem did run it the eight years before that

[Fasttazz]

I assume that you also think that we were "sleeping" when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor? Our Govt knew about it beforehand and let it happen to get the American people on their side to get involved in the War.

Yes,there were many people involved for this to transpire.Who had the recently obtained contract for the Security at the WTC?

Why does the 9/11 Commission report not discuss the collapse of building 7?
Which fell into its own footprint.
Why would exposing photo's or video of the Pentagon hit jeopardize National Security?
Why was there no formal investigation at ground zero from Authorities?
Why was the rubble shipped away to be recycled without investigators being allowed to examine?
Would you talk if you were threatened with Death of your person,and your Family?
Why did the Dept of Defense already have a simulation drill of the EXACT same events going, on the same dreadful day?And then said they could not imagine something like this?
Where is Osama?
If there is no more secrecy than authorities should have been able to find him?
Where were the weapons of Mass Destruction?
Maybe you could take George Orwell's "1984" novel and give it a second look.
I will never believe that WTC 1,2 collapsed from the weakening of the steel
girders.As the top started to tilt, how did all the lower floors "jump" out of the way to allow it to fall at free fall speeds?
Why were there Massive heat recordings at the pile several weeks later?
What about the seismograph readings of that day?

Back to the topic of you believing that the JFK Assassination was a cover-up,( which i am convinced it was)
A group of Australians has recreated the "Magic Bullet" theory.
Although the projectile did not survive in pristine condition.What does that tell us?

[Capper]

Its a pretty well known fact that Pearl Harbor was not the complete surprise that many think it was, in fact there was a series of errors and miscommunication that lead up to the event.

As to the US sacrificing almost its entire Pacific Fleet, that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

I'm not going to sit here and dispute the whole argument, we'll just say I strongly disagree with you, and it bothers me that people who live in this country, in our society can believe such shit, or want to believe such shit.

You also miss my point.....do you realize how many people would have to be involved to put this all together? Hundreds, if not thousands......and here we are, six years later, and not one person has spoken up and said "Yep, we did it"......not a single one.....in a day and age where a Congressman can't get buttsecks in a bathroom without everyone knowing, and a country where nothing is asecret or goes unreported.

AS to WMD, there has always been WMD....they have found stuff in Iraq, even after the invasion, but the stuff that worries me is the stuff they didn't find, that probably found its way into Syria or Iran, and which will probably end up being used in the US or an Ally country sometime in the future.


You want a conspiracy?

[Athildja-x64]

to throw my 2 cents in,
They found 10,000+ cehmical artillery rounds... why did the news not talk about that?
There is a spot in the Iraqi desert that has radiation levels so high people are not alowed to even drive over it unless they are in NBC suits and vehicles. why did the press not talk about that?

You are fed what the press wants you to know,
The recent press is all about making money, they get that money by ratings and advertising.
They also are very liberal, of course it makes sense for them to bandy about crap about bush, and it has backfired on them a few times too.
Like the story they tried to run during the last election saying he did not attend his National Gurad drills.

take the tin foil hat off guys,
they found the tapes from the terrrorists, they have video of them entering the ariports, they have the calls from the people on the planes.
They released the video of the play hitting the pentagon. I watched it on the news.
If you want to believe in something hard enough you will find a way to make it true.
But it still does not remove the facts.

[Fasttazz]

I never said that the "terrorists" were not involved.

And could you provide a link to the Pentagon video?

[Athildja-x64]

Originally Posted by Fasttazz

I never said that the "terrorists" were not involved.

And could you provide a link to the Pentagon video?

Judicial Watch

CNN.com - First video of Pentagon 9/11 attack released - May 16, 2006

BBC NEWS | Americas | US releases 9/11 Pentagon video

there are three links they are from last year too...

search google for "Pentagon Video" you will get pages of this.

Not a very good cover up is it?

[Fasttazz]

Originally Posted by Capper

You also miss my point.....do you realize how many people would have to be involved to put this all together? Hundreds, if not thousands......and here we are, six years later, and not one person has spoken up and said "Yep, we did it"......not a single one.....in a day and age where a Congressman can't get buttsecks in a bathroom without everyone knowing, and a country where nothing is asecret or goes unreported.

Its been 44 years since the Assasination of JFK, and no one has said "YEP We did it"
FFS!!

[Capper]

Well, then maybe it wasn't a conspiracy.....
Also, one person could pull off that assassination, George didn't fly those planes himself........unless, no....OMG....he's a clone!!!!!


oh wait, he couldn't have flown those planes....he didn't show up for his training.

[Fasttazz]

Originally Posted by Athildja-x64

Judicial Watch

CNN.com - First video of Pentagon 9/11 attack released - May 16, 2006

BBC NEWS | Americas | US releases 9/11 Pentagon video

there are three links they are from last year too...

search google for "Pentagon Video" you will get pages of this.

Not a very good cover up is it?

I have watched these vidoes time and time again.
4 fooking frames does not show the plane.It shows the nose of something
white, then the explosion.
Sorry i need more than this!!

[Stormcrow]

I'm sorry guys, but this is pointless. You will never be able to prove or disprove that 9/11 was an inside job. There are several points which seem like it would be...a planeful of people can be held hostage with a few guys with boxcutters, the buildings collapse, the fact the one who flew into the Pentagon would have to be an ace pilot to skim a jet that big along the ground, the missing wreckage of Flight 93..but too much other evidence is in favor of an actual event. Perhaps it was an inside job, most people don't realize exactly how large or expansive the government really is with levels of secrecy the President and his cabinet have no clue about, but then again our government is also horribly inefficient and wrapped up in it's own red tape that something like this could have happened and will happen again.

Theres no doubt that Bush and Cheney have exploited the situation, read Haliburton and Patriotic Act, but if this was a "inside job", then it wouldn't be the whole government or even the Department of Defense that did it. It would be a few individuals in the highest ranks that stand to make the most gain, and even then most of the work would be done by the terrorist cells and organization because like Rich said, too many people working on a secret project and you increase your risk of being exposed. That would be the only conspiracy worth looking at, the whole "bombs planted, asploded, preplanned by the CIA and NAS" would be too large a job to keep quiet.

Theres much better conspiracies out there too, look into Bohemian Grove, Bilderburg Group, North American Union, Majestic 12, NWO, or hell, even the Illuminati. I wouldn't doubt that the government seized control of the event in favor of itself, like it does now, or that perhaps maybe a few of the top tier didn't stop it in order to profit, but the whole coverup inside job theory is just blown way out of proportion.