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Old November 9th, 2007   #11
 
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Those small florescent bulbs, that go into normal lightbulbs usually have mercury vapor in them. If one brakes, leave the room for a bit and open a window. Not really dangerous, unless you this weird fetish for breaking florescent bulbs?



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Old November 9th, 2007   #12
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I would assume a typical household replacement would be only a few dollars, much cheaper than the efficient but deadly Fluorescent Light Bulbs.

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Snopes places this mis-information in to a more realistic perspective.



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Thanks for the heads up... I was wondering if there was more to the story. I have bought a couple packs of the CFL bulbs and been replacing some of my old incandescents in the house..



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Thanks for the heads up... I was wondering if there was more to the story. I have bought a couple packs of the CFL bulbs and been replacing some of my old incandescents in the house..
Yeah. The CFL's I have are over 3 years old. In that time frame, I would have used at least 10 regular bulbs per. At least. So I've been of the opinion that a single CFL that outlasts that many regular bulbs probably has less impact than the 10 incandescent bulbs on the environment. It surely has less of one on my frustration and wallet.



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I have had about a dozen in for less than a year and about 8-10 more to go. I have have had two of them burn out... but I am guessing that is far from the norm.



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It is still a danger and a health risk... I suspect many will be pulled for higher than acceptable mercury....

I will wait for LEDs to be reasonably priced.


actually they are reasonably priced, pretty close to the fluorescent type

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It is still a danger and a health risk... I suspect many will be pulled for higher than acceptable mercury....

I will wait for LEDs to be reasonably priced.
I doubt it, the amount of mercury in these things is very low. barely enough to even visibly see. They aren't a risk as long as you open a window for a few minutes , and carefully sweep up fragments of glass. I have had full size 4ft. florsecent bulbs break right next to me, I just opened a window and walked away. Not dead yet.

Also, 20-LED Light Bulb, White Standard
$13, and 65 lumens. Standard 75 watt lightbulbs will put out upwards of 800 lumens

MR16 3W Power LED Track Light Bulb, White Floodlight
$45 for 180 lumens of light output.

Then 9W High Power LED Bulb, Large Globe, White
Nearly $70 for half the light output of a newer 75 watt lighbulb. At the 10 watts of power it uses, your better off with a CFL that puts out more light.



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OK people, we seem to have apples and oranges. Look back to the beginning at Carl's post regarding the LED lights. Check out the Lumens. Light is measured in Lumens. (OK sometimes foot candles) but look at the lumens. A 60 Lumen LED lamp carries a price tag of $44.95. Now what is 60 Lumens? Nothing! A standard 40 watt incandescent light bulb delivers about 500 Lumens. A 15 watt bulb delivers about 110 Lumens. The 60 Lumens for your $44.95 delivers about the same light as a simple 7 watt night light bulb. You can't even read by it. You can navigate in the dark and that is it.

I can buy a lifetime supply of 7 watt bulbs for $44.95.

All CFL (Flourescent) bulbs have mercury vapor in them in trace anounts. At work we dispose of them properly as Hazmat but they are not like an asbestoes plague or something. If you have any flourescent bulbs in your garage or home a standard 48" bulb has more mercury vapor than the new bulbs that replace standard house lamps. Unless you plan to eat them you have little to worry about.

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if yuo need all that light eating up your power bill, go for it...but most fixtures I see take multiple bulbs... in the case of my ceiling fans, each have 4-5 bulbs, the outside floodlights are usually 2 per fixture... so you can't really go by that output entirely unless it is used alone in a room.

25W incandescent = ~210 Lumens (8.4 Lumens per watt)
9W LED = ~450 Lumens (50 Lumens per watt)
CFC = 50-100 Lumens per watt

I will still not put those fluorescents in my home, especially with younger children







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if yuo need all that light eating up your power bill, go for it...but most fixtures I see take multiple bulbs... in the case of my ceiling fans, each have 4-5 bulbs, the outside floodlights are usually 2 per fixture... so you can't really go by that output entirely unless it is used alone in a room.

25W incandescent = ~210 Lumens (8.4 Lumens per watt)
9W LED = ~450 Lumens (50 Lumens per watt)
CFC = 50-100 Lumens per watt

I will still not put those fluorescents in my home, especially with younger children
I can buy an 8 pack of 75 watt light bulbs, 1055 lumens a piece, with a 1500 hour lift span. If this was just say for one light. Assumings average of 60,000 hours for an equivalent LED bulb, 5 packs of these incandescents would last 60,000 hours for a grand total of $20. A 1055 lumen LED bulb would at least be $200 or more. It would essentially cost the same in the end, minus the massive upfront cost.

Also, those CFCs are hardly dangerous. Like snopes said, the amount of mercury in those bulbs is smaller then the period at the end of this sentence. Your kid would have to basically eat the whole bulb to even have an attempt to let the mercury touch him. Mercury can be flushed out of your system. If your kid dropped and broke an incandescent and ate a shard of glass, or a CFC's glass. It doesn't matter, stll going to the hospital either way.



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