Steve Jobs Makes Case for Abolishing DRM

[gvblake22]

Originally Posted by yurimxpxman

I disagree with you there, Blake. Tools like DVDShrink and DeCSS make ripping DVDs as easy as Britney Spears (oops, did I say that aloud?). Music can be very easily ripped from CDs, and any DRM-encumbered digital music can be fixed with an analog recording by Audacity, which bypasses the speakers, making a perfect copy. Mplayer and Lame also make a great DRM-freeing pair.

Well, I was referring mostly to trying to use DRM protected content in its native form. Given the restrictions mentioned in articles and whatnot, it seems as though trying to play DRM protected content like most people are used to doing with non-DRM content will be an incredible headache, if not impossible (like only being ably to have it on up to a certain number of computers or it only playing on certain portable media players or the requirement for HDCP enabled hardware for playback).

Sure, there will always be ways to get around DRM, but I'm pretty sure those ways aren't exactly legal or else they wouldn't even bother with DRM. Regular DVD's are fine because they don't have any advanced forms of DRM, but HD content (like what will be found on HD-DVD and Blu Ray) will probably be pretty tricky to avoid.

[Panda Man]

Originally Posted by gvblake22

Regular DVD's are fine because they don't have any advanced forms of DRM, but HD content (like what will be found on HD-DVD and Blu Ray) will probably be pretty tricky to avoid.

Actually in my last post it was just a metaphor, I was trying to imply that using DRM will be as easy as using a DVD Haven't they already started passing the keys out so people can use DRM protected media illegally?

[yurimxpxman]

Originally Posted by gvblake22

Sure, there will always be ways to get around DRM, but I'm pretty sure those ways aren't exactly legal or else they wouldn't even bother with DRM.

It depends on how you go about it. If you decrypt something, it's illegal, but if you record it in analog mode, it's perfectly legal (fair use rights).

Originally Posted by gvblake22

Regular DVD's are fine because they don't have any advanced forms of DRM, but HD content (like what will be found on HD-DVD and Blu Ray) will probably be pretty tricky to avoid.

I still disagree with you. The DVD's copy protection actually was fairly advanced (you can't simply copy and paste the files from the disk without DeCSS), and the copy protection on both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray have already been cracked. As Steve Jobs said in his letter, "It's a cat and mouse game."

[Hitman]

Originally Posted by yurimxpxman

I'm going to buy a Mac (to dual-boot OS X and Linux, the latter of which would be my primary OS).

No suprise there. I have installed and used Linux on a Mac before, and I have to say it was easier then installing it on a PC. It also ran faster too. That was over 5 years ago, I am sure it's even better now.

[gvblake22]

Originally Posted by yurimxpxman

It depends on how you go about it. If you decrypt something, it's illegal, but if you record it in analog mode, it's perfectly legal (fair use rights).

I still disagree with you. The DVD's copy protection actually was fairly advanced (you can't simply copy and paste the files from the disk without DeCSS), and the copy protection on both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray have already been cracked. As Steve Jobs said in his letter, "It's a cat and mouse game."

All very good points. I don't claim to be a content protection know-it-all, but I'm just trying to say is that the whole DRM thing makes it much harder for the normal person to use their legal content how they want or how they are used to using it.

[Mithosphere]

Originally Posted by yurimxpxman

I've been very pleased with Apple lately. If they ever get around to making the big jump from the one-button mouse, I'm going to buy a Mac (to dual-boot OS X and Linux, the latter of which would be my primary OS).

Ya ever hear of the Mighty mouse?

[gvblake22]

Originally Posted by Mithosphere

Ya ever hear of the Mighty mouse?

$50 for the plainest mouse ever?! Apple is almost as bad as Microsoft sometimes...

[yurimxpxman]

Originally Posted by Mithosphere

Ya ever hear of the Mighty mouse?

Yeah, I have, but I wouldn't want it. I don't like any of Apple's mice. If I was going to buy an external mouse for a MacBook, I'd buy a normal, non-Apple one. Actually, what I want is a two-button mouse on the touchpad.