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Old February 18th, 2008   #51
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Old February 18th, 2008   #52
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Looks very nice Oldman!
But why go with a quad? What does your son do that requires one?
I know Crysis and COD4 now utilize all four cores but personally I'd go with an E8400.
Much cooler, cheaper, and doesn't use as much electricity.

Just curious
Like HITMAN man stated...future thing.My son will be happy with this build for many years I believe.It will still be upgradable no matter what.



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Old February 18th, 2008   #53
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Ok lets try this.

Newegg.com - Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

Newegg.com - Antec Neo Power 500 ATX12V 500W Power Supply 100Vac to 240Vac +/- 10% UL, CUL, TUV, CE, FCC, CCC, CB, C-tick - Retail

Newegg.com - Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor - OEM

Newegg.com - OCZ Vista Upgrade 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

Newegg.com - EVGA 512-P3-N802-AR GeForce 8800GT Superclocked 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail

Newegg.com - Acer AL2016WCbd Black 20" 2ms(GTG) DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 800:1 - Retail

Newegg.com - Microsoft Windows Vista 64-Bit Ultimate for System Builders Single Pack DVD - OEM
The ram could be better. :P
Seriously though, you're moving from DDR2-800 4x1GB with 4-4-4-12 timings to DDR2-800 with 5-6-6-18 timings which are pretty lax. I would try to stick to RAM with comparable timings, else if you don't plan to upgrade it might be better to stick with 4x1GB (tighter timings). However, since the OCZ kit has looser timings, it needs less voltage to run properly, and reduced voltage = reduce heat. It's not a big difference, but it's a difference nonetheless.

Besides, with the components you chose, it wouldn't be very hard to overclock, may you be tempted by it one day or another. However it's somewhat more complicated to overclock with 4 sticks of RAM than only 2, as you add chances that 1 stick could barely overclock.
It really is your choice, but I prefer the Crucial 4x1GB idea better than the OCZ Vista Upgrade 4GB kit.

There's the OCZ Reaper HPC edition 2x2GB kit running for $95.99 after $25.00 MIR at the egg.
Newegg.com - OCZ Reaper HPC Edition 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

There's also Patriot Extreme 2x2GB kit for $97.99 after $30.00 MIR
Newegg.com - Patriot Extreme Performance 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

And last but not the least, GeIL 2x2GB at $95.99 after $20.00 MIR
Newegg.com - GeIL 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

It's a good idea to consider the OCZ Reaper HPC edition height though, as it can come in some CPU coolers way.

All in all though, memory performance is marginal between all kits and at their rated specs, if you take memory of the same specs, they should perform sensibly the same.



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Couple of suggestions:

1) I'm going to disagree with the Antec Neo HE suggestion. The Neo HE series suffered through some initial growing pains, particularly when paired with Asus boards (but not exclusively). Many users (more than a handful) had problems with the PSU dying, causing system lockups, etc., and though Antec supposedly addressed the issue in future revisions, we've seen the problem persist on later models. We had even stepped in to help one of our forum members (Captain Crunch) receive service after going hrough several failed Neo HE units.

Not everyone was affected, and perhaps the issue is now moot on whatever revision they're currently on, but there are too many choices out there than to have to roll the dice. If factoring in mail-in-rebates, Antec's TrioPower 650W is priced attractively at $75 shipped. So are both the OCZ StealthXstream 500W ($58 shipped after $12 MIR) and 600W ($80 shipped after $10 MIR).

2) To give another perspective on the RAM, I'll say I like the OCZ kit you picked out. The rebated price is fantastic, and since you're not planning to overclock, I wouldn't worry too much about tighter timed chips. And if set to 2.0V, that kit could probably hold tighter timings anyway (YMMV).

Different schools of thought, and really no right or wrong answer.



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Like HITMAN man stated...future thing.My son will be happy with this build for many years I believe.It will still be upgradable no matter what.
yep, quads are more future proof then E8400..



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A better question is why not go with quad. If you can fit it in the build budget you should most defiantly go quad. Multi-cores are the future, and more and more apps are starting to take advantage of them. Sure you probably don't need them, but wanting holds just as much weight.
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Like HITMAN man stated...future thing.My son will be happy with this build for many years I believe.It will still be upgradable no matter what.
Yea that is true, quads are going to become more popular in the coming days....
I guess I just like the E8400 because of OC'ing capability....

I like the new list Oldman!
It's looking better every minute.
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How about this....Killer memory too, a whopping 64kb!!!
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How about this....Killer memory too, a whopping 64kb!!!
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Get the Commodore 64 instead.



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Get the Commodore 64 instead.
LMAO...I had a Commodore....I liked some of them damn silly games.I wish they would bring some of the better titles back for todays machines.

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