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[Yellowhello]

Originally Posted by Parker

What about the PWM's? Theres only 4-Phase on that board, does it really effect so much on the quads?

I think it'll be alright if he doesn't push the volts too high.

[Parker]

Originally Posted by Yellowhello

I think it'll be alright if he doesn't push the volts too high.

How high would be too high for a 4-phase PWM board? 1.5v? 1.4v?

[Yellowhello]

Originally Posted by Parker

How high would be too high for a 4-phase PWM board? 1.5v? 1.4v?

I dunno exactly the voltage, but I think you'd know when your computer starts smoking...

personally, I wouldn't OC a quad at all on a 4-phase board.:dontknow:

[diabloplayer75]

Hrmm.. your saying don't over clock my quad? or just not on this motherboard? If i'm not over clocking should i even buy that 50$ fan?

[Yellowhello]

Originally Posted by diabloplayer75

Hrmm.. your saying don't over clock my quad? or just not on this motherboard? If i'm not over clocking should i even buy that 50$ fan?

Yea, just not on that mobo. that mobo is fine for duals, but quads can put lot of stress on it. If you really want to OC it, go for a higher end mobo.

I'd still get the aftermarket cooler though. Although the stock cooler is just dandy, the aftermarket cooler one will probably extend the CPU's life a little.

[Parker]

Originally Posted by diabloplayer75

Hrmm.. your saying don't over clock my quad? or just not on this motherboard?

Just on that mobo, since it's only got 4-Phase PWM. If you want to spend maybe $40-60 more on a more expensive board that has 8-Phase or 12-Phase PWM then it would be safe to OC the quad.

If i'm not over clocking should i even buy that 50$ fan?

I would say no, I'm using intel's stock cooler on my QX6700, I'm even OC'ed to 2.9Ghz with no voltage change and no temp change from stock 2.66Ghz. You can probably do the same and not have a problem. But I would recommend going any further than 3.0Ghz.

BTW, what kind of programs/games will you be using/playing?
Cuz, you may not even need the quad..... just get an E8400 and upgrade to a Q9450 down the road.

Edit:
Nate has a good point about the cooler, it may be worth it to grab that aftermarket cooler.

[diabloplayer75]

Does the Q9450 even have a fan? since its OEM verson.
Could you link me which motherboard you were talking about for 40bucks more, although i might not change my setup i don't think i need to overclock.

Games that come to mind.. Age of conan, warhammer online, Starcraft 2, company of heros, might try out crysis, i already own call of duty 4 on xbox360. *might* try out bioshock & mass effect and assassins creed. I also think i should try out Dawn of War.

I have never overclocked before and am not familiar with it

just a side note, this computer i'm on right now i had built at frys 3 years ago, it *was* awesome at the time and can still play most these games on low-medium settings. It has an amd 3800 processor, and a readon x800 graphics card.

One more side edit~ Do you know of any games that are coming out that i should be looking forward to? i have not been into pc gaming for awhile since i was occupied with other things

[Yellowhello]

Originally Posted by diabloplayer75

Does the Q9450 even have a fan? since its OEM verson.
Could you link me which motherboard you were talking about for 40bucks more, although i might not change my setup i don't think i need to overclock.

Damn, your right, OEM's do not come with stock cooling.

mobo's to consider:

Newegg.com - ABIT IP35 Pro LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards $140 after MIR

Newegg.com - ASUS P5K PRO LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards

[diabloplayer75]

alright i'm looking at Newegg.com - ABIT IP35 Pro LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards

Since it has a good rebate it seems like the better choice, btw how hard is it to claim your rebate?

does this mobo allow dual video cards? maybe a year down the road i can get a second video card, another 8800gt would probably be way cheaper in a year

Edit:
Going with the q9450 is the best way right? rather then getting the Q9300 for like 55$ less its a good investment? I am trying to understand the difference still

[Parker]

Originally Posted by Yellowhello

Damn, your right, OEM's do not come with stock cooling.

Yea I just realized this too.... well, check out the AC Freezer 7, $32 isn't bad, and it's better than the intel stock cooler.
You'll be able to OC a little with that BTW.[/quote]

mobo's to consider:

Newegg.com - ABIT IP35 Pro LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards $140 after MIR

Newegg.com - ASUS P5K PRO LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards

Good recommendations Nate!

Originally Posted by diabloplayer75

Games that come to mind.. Age of conan, warhammer online, Starcraft 2, company of heros, might try out crysis, i already own call of duty 4 on xbox360. *might* try out bioshock & mass effect and assassins creed. I also think i should try out Dawn of War.

Well, the only game on that list that "can" utilize four cores is Crysis.
IMO, I don't think you would see much performance increase between an E8400 and Q9450, maybe a little bit but not enough to go paying $160 more for..... I'd say stick with an E8400, doing this you don't have to check out any better mobo's either!