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Old June 10th, 2008   #21
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I'm just baffled that you call 3.6GHz a "suicide OC", I've personally taken three E8400's to 3.6GHz at default voltages and past 4GHz staying with the INTEL spec for that processor......I understand preaching safety and stability, but calling it a "suicide OC" is silly.

EDIT: I was just discussing this with Paul, in almost 7 yrs of doing this, I've never killed a processor while overclocking, I've lost one to a power supply, but I've never had a processor fail. I've had maybe a handful of boards and memory kits die, but thats covering literally hundreds of systems, and probably thousands of hours of testing.

I don't like being confrontational, or seem like a "know it all", but I'll put my experience and testing up against just about anyone. My name and reputation is directly tied to this site and forums, so I take anything posted very seriously, as we strive to only post good information and help people get the most out of their hardware.



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Old June 10th, 2008   #22
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My question:
The max OC may be 3.8-4GHz so I ask why start so close to the final speed?

I said "suicide to use that as a starting point", meaning they could end up wasting time trying to get it to boot at 3.6GHz with different settings, especially when there may be another limiting factor such as memory mutli, chipset issues not seen at stock speeds or whatever else may affect any given computer... which is why I mentioned to start low so there is a trail to follow instead of jumping off the deep end. Just trying to help keep things safe.

edit: One thing people need to remember here is that the E8400 is an exception to the normal overclocking rules. It is one of the few processors that you can start at a large OC and get away with it. Try this on almost any other processor and you are asking for danger...







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Can anyone help me out and give me a good starting point from where I can begine OCing my E8400 CPU and Gigabyte GA-P35-DS4 motherboard?

I know the correct steps to take, and I am familiar with the risks and the need to be careful. But surely there's a starting point I can goto before performing the trial and error "baby steps" process.



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Well Mike......my short answer is its a complete waste of time to run a 3GHz processor at 3.1 GHz and test it for 5-6 hrs with Prime, then move to 3.2GHz, then 3.3GHz.....its easy and simple enough to look at what people are generally getting with their OCs and use that as a guide for yourself.

As I've said at least once in this thread, push your CPU FSB with the default voltages first to see how far you can go, thats pretty damned safe. Also keeping the processor within the rated voltages (1.3625V in this case) is a pretty safe bet. As I said, I've never killed a processor, and tested quite a few over my "career".

I also emphasized what I call isolating and consolidating....and I've explained that a few times as well.


Maybe you used a really poor choice of words.....I don't associate a "suicide OC" with wasting time.....to me suicide means to kill, or death, and is usually associated with extreme overclockers who don't care if they kill hardware.

No one in this thread has posted what I'd call reckless or wrong information, and there is some really good stuff here......safety above all else.......but to me, when you are wrong, you are wrong....admit it and move on to something else.



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One thing I have been wondering... I have my Q6600 G0 overclocked at 3.3 and I use 1.36250 volts. It is stable with Prime95 for 27 hours. I did not want to go higher because Intel initially published the upper range of volts at 1.375 (I think). Later I noticed the upper range as 1.5 volts Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor Q6600 - SLACR I realize that at this point you need to use a lot of additional voltage to achieve just a little increase in speed. But with good air cooling is it generally safe to use up to 1.5 volts on this processor. I suppose too that the temps should stay at 71 or below as recommended by Intel. I think if I used more than the 1.36250 volts the temps would go higher than 71 under Prime95 testing but in my everyday use I don't think they would ever come close. The testing may be the problem then. To test for stability I would be stressing the CPU above 71. Thanks, Kent



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Thats also why I mentioned not to worry about Orthos or Prime until he hits 3.6GHz...

Again, the E8400 is an exception to the normal overclocking rules but to make sure there are no other limiting factors is why I still suggested to start around 3.2GHz.







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but to me, when you are wrong, you are wrong....admit it and move on to something else.
I guess I am wrong... that I prefer to do things safely. Thank you for correcting me.







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Kent 10 ... I have been overclocking since well before the Celeron 200 was the best chip for an OC ...

I have the same board and an E3110 ... 3600 is just an FSB setting ... and your on easy street 400 X 9 ... 800 for the Ram ... Walk in the park.

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With that Q6600 400x9 might be a bit out of reach, and although they say 1.5V with that processor....I'd keep a close eye on the temperatures.

With that older Quad I'd say 400x8, 3.2GHz, would be fine.....but in my experiences with that processor, an overclock in the 3.2-3.4GHz range is the sweet spot.



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