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Old July 30th, 2007   #51
 
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It is high. I don't know if it's something to worry about, but I'm just gonna let it be.




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Old July 30th, 2007   #52
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12.13V is definitely not high, it's actually pretty good. High is 12.5V.



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Old July 30th, 2007   #53
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12.13V is definitely not high, it's actually pretty good. High is 12.5V.
And this is coming from someone named "OCNoob" ? Alright, thanks

Wish I knew that a while ago. I ruled out a lot of PSUs from my list because they had too many reviews with above 12.05v >_<'' My Toughpower is giving me 11.96v according to my bios. I don't know of any program which can read voltages though =/ And i'm too scared to test with my multimeter.



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Well testing with a multimeter is extremely simple.
Checking Your PC's Power Supply Voltage Readings
It's possible to test multiple rails without restarting your system just remember to remove the ground last. I would restart the system when testing the atx only because it;s harder to put the probes in.




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Old July 30th, 2007   #55
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#1: Don't be fooled by the nick, OCNoob outgrew that title long ago.

#2: 12.13 is no where near high, that's actually really damn good for a +12V rating. The ATX specification allows a 5% variance in either direction, which means anything between 11.40V and 12.60V is within spec. What you want to look for is a lack of fluctuation, meaning it's preferable to have a PSU that measures a consistently steady 11.9V than one that measures 12.0V on the nose but constantly jumps around all over the place at idle or under load.



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Well testing with a multimeter is extremely simple.
Checking Your PC's Power Supply Voltage Readings
It's possible to test multiple rails without restarting your system just remember to remove the ground last. I would restart the system when testing the atx only because it;s harder to put the probes in.
I saw the article before. Its a very nice articles that can help beginners. I know how its done, i'm just scared. I don't want to risk my brand new tough power.. or my $80 multimeter which I love *hugs multimeter* The warranty on it ended like 3 months ago and one of the fuses blew already. If I accidentally kill my multimeter then I won't be able to afford a good new one. And if I blow my PSU, it might damage my hardware and I worked very hard and sold many valuable things in order to afford it. Including a bipedal robot I made which cost me more to make than my computer cost me :( I miss the bugger.


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#1: Don't be fooled by the nick, OCNoob outgrew that title long ago.

#2: 12.13 is no where near high, that's actually really damn good for a +12V rating. The ATX specification allows a 5% variance in either direction, which means anything between 11.40V and 12.60V is within spec. What you want to look for is a lack of fluctuation, meaning it's preferable to have a PSU that measures a consistently steady 11.9V than one that measures 12.0V on the nose but constantly jumps around all over the place at idle or under load.
#1: Note the at the end of the sentence. I'm sure he knows far more than me. Especially with that nice rig in his sig :)

#2: I see. I know the ATX standard allows for +-5% on the 12v rail. But I thought a high 12v rail is still bad because it costs the MOSFETs and regulators to produce more heat to get the incoming voltage to 12v rather than 12.1v or whatever it may be. BIOS always seems to show the same voltage for me within like +-.01v for all rails. It might be just the bios but ehh. I need to get me one of those fancy PSU load cells and a fancy $400 amperage meter thingy >_<



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#2: I see. I know the ATX standard allows for +-5% on the 12v rail. But I thought a high 12v rail is still bad because it costs the MOSFETs and regulators to produce more heat to get the incoming voltage to 12v rather than 12.1v or whatever it may be.
The problem here is the definition of high, which 12.13 doesn't come close to qualifying. You start breaching 12.6V, and problems could potentially rise, but the difference between 12.0 and 12.13 is, for all intents and purposes, nil.



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I wouldn't worry about the voltages.




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I'm not worrying about them. I like them very much and this powersupply is a monster. I think I have reason to believe that the NeoHE 500w is faulty and may be reaching the end of it's life. I think it is still under warranty so I might get it replaced.




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I'm not worrying about them. I like them very much and this powersupply is a monster. I think I have reason to believe that the NeoHE 500w is faulty and may be reaching the end of it's life. I think it is still under warranty so I might get it replaced.
Sounds good. Grab a Silverstone Olympia, they have rock solid rails.




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