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Old February 7th, 2007   #11
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yea me too this sucks.

im gonna have to pay for a full diagnostics check with my comp guy it won't set me back too much and i trust him to take care of anything. got all my parts from him anyway so its all covered everything's good.

if its a problem with (a) part(s) then its free=D

ill keep posted. meanwhile if we get more solutions i'll try stuff!



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ultimate confusion!!!

this is after a Super Pi test finished.



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ultimate confusion!!!

this is after a Super Pi test finished.
OK, that is with stock settings and is well within spec for your CPU. The thermal Spec for your CPU is 61.4C.

Your first post in this thread shows a temp of 46C Idle. With your overclock, from 1.86 to 2.8, that's going to be about normal for both of the coolers you've tried and the voltages needed to make that overclock stable. So far, I've seen absolutely nothing that makes me think you have any sort of problem outside of needing a better cooling solution to bring the temps down a bit.

I hope you're doing all of these settings through the Bios and not the Asus AI app. I recommend people uninstall that crap. I've not seen one yet that was worth a damn. TAT does a better job of temp reporting any way.

You need to make sure that for each temperature test, the conditions are the same. It almost looks like your doing this once with the side panel off, once with it on, then once with the fan turned down, once with it full blast. Room temp being 80 degrees F one time, 70 degrees F the next. The fluctuations you're having shouldn't be there.



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So far, I've seen absolutely nothing that makes me think you have any sort of problem outside of needing a better cooling solution to bring the temps down a bit.

I hope you're doing all of these settings through the Bios and not the Asus AI app. I recommend people uninstall that crap. I've not seen one yet that was worth a damn. TAT does a better job of temp reporting any way.
The reason the programs are reading different temperatures is because: reading from different locations on the CPU, and time intervals are not exactly synced with one another.

And the 61.4 Temp spec is a location above the actual cores under the heatspreader.



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Welcome to the wonderful world of software temperature and voltage monitoring!
Like Quakindude mentioned, your results are nothing to be alarmed about. You have a high overclock and your temperatures are going to go up. You could always invest $10 in an external temperature probe and monitor your temperatures that way...



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The reason the programs are reading different temperatures is because: reading from different locations on the CPU, and time intervals are not exactly synced with one another.

And the 61.4 Temp spec is a location above the actual cores under the heatspreader.
I was referring to his difference in temps from one setting to another, not one app to another. You will notice how CoreTemp and TAT are both fairly close to each other. Should have been clearer about that.

It's my understanding that both CoreTemp and TAT take a reading directly from the diode integrated ion the chip. Where the Asus and nVidia utilities get this info from is beyond me. Could be the same diode, but their software borks the reading.



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I was referring to his difference in temps from one setting to another, not one app to another. You will notice how CoreTemp and TAT are both fairly close to each other. Should have been clearer about that.

It's my understanding that both CoreTemp and TAT take a reading directly from the diode integrated ion the chip. Where the Asus and nVidia utilities get this info from is beyond me. Could be the same diode, but their software borks the reading.
i stick to CoreTemp. It's fairly accurate.



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40-41 idle on CoreTemp with all stock settings.

and i only ever use bios to overclock my friends.

im gona bring it up to 2.0, then 2.2, 2.4, and so on monitoring the temp changes and what not.

might i add i have the side panel and no side fan installed.

i was wondering though; i have an extra 80mm fan. on the side it should be sucking air from inside the case and blowing it out (exhaust) or opposite (intake)?

also, i dont have any fan controller also seeing that the intel fan is 4-pin, im not sure how i can control the speed. it seems to be pretty steady at 1800-ish RPM instead of 2500+ before...

why is it cooler when it spins slower?



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I would go into the Bios and see if there's a setting for the fan RPM. There's a setting in my Bios and I have it at 100%. I never let the fan control in Bios run while overclocking. The fan runs slower, and the CPU is cooler, because at that point, there's little to no load on it. If you use TAT, there's a Start button to the bottom of the temp readout for each core. Under Core 0 and Core 1. Click on the button in line with "Workload Level" for each core and monitor your temp and fan speed. The fan should almost immediately spool up. This places a 100% workload on your CPU, causing it to heat up considerably. I use it to test for temps after making a Voltage adjustment.

As far as the side fan, we would need to know the location and direction of any other fans in your case to make that recommendation.



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pics of the inside of the comp, and the side panel with grill installed to show position of the fan.

i have no other fans installed (maybe its better to use it at the back as an exhaust? or the front as an intake but i think u need a front and back to justify the front one, no?

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/DSC00647.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/DSC00646.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/DSC00645.jpg

pics of a thin 80mmx80mmx15mm fan i can do something with. it has regular screw holes, just smaller fins and thinner. suggestions on how to use the 2 fans=D

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/DSC00648.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/DSC00649.jpg

the one that would go on the side panel is a regular 80mm fan, pretty sure typical 25mm thickness, but definitely not 15mm :P

cant decide what to do with those fans...

im thinking one in the front and one in the back is the best, but is it more important to have a stronger intake, or a stronger exhaust?




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