Birdy rig failures :'( - Page 4

Quakindude · November 30th, 2006

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Originally Posted by yurimxpxman

That looks pretty comparable to the Fortron PSU that I bought (Link). I don't know a whole lot about PSUs... is that terrible? It sounds fine to me.. I'm only running one SATA drive and one IDE DVD-RAM drive, and my graphics card doesn't require extra power. What's your opinion?

Fortron makes some very good PSU's. I've had very good luck using them in the past. But if your system is power starved at 400w and that PSU failed because of it, you may want to check into something with a higher rating.

Although, your rig shouldn't need more than a 400w PSU.

Maybe you just got a bad one.

yurimxpxman · November 30th, 2006

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Originally Posted by Quakindude

Fortron makes some very good PSU's. I've had very good luck using them in the past. But if your system is power starved at 400w and that PSU failed because of it, you may want to check into something with a higher rating.

Although, your rig shouldn't need more than a 400w PSU.

Maybe you just got a bad one.

I had to have. The PSU I swapped in for testing was also a 400w. So do you think it'd be worth trying an RMA then? I just don't want to have another one konk out on me ;)

Quakindude · November 30th, 2006

Fortron, made by FSP group, has always held up well for me in the past. The system you have listed shouldn't draw more than 325W max I wouldn't think. So you're well within the "Quakindude 10% rule for Power Supplies." I've always been of the opinion that I didn't want to put a PSU in a system unless I knew that system would only draw 90% of the PSU's rated maximum. I like to keep it at 85% if costs allow it. My system right now pulls in 450W, but I have a 700W PSU.

I am of the opinion that you wouldn't do yourself any harm by trying an RMA on that one. While this 430W I have will certainly do the job, and if you need it you can have it, I would personally make the PSU manufacturer replace it. If for nothing else than the principle of the thing.

**stinger608** · November 30th, 2006

If you want a great PSU that supports all of the newest "stuff" for a good price, then check out this:

Hiper modular Type R 580 watt PSU from Hipergroup

They are great PSU's and look very cool to boot!

**One4yu2c** · November 30th, 2006

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Originally Posted by yurimxpxman

I had to have. The PSU I swapped in for testing was also a 400w. So do you think it'd be worth trying an RMA then? I just don't want to have another one konk out on me ;)

Fortron is one of the 'good guys', so to speak. But if not a faulty unit, despite being a budget box your system just might require more juice on the +12V rail than anticipated.

yurimxpxman · November 30th, 2006

I don't understand this rail stuff. Just what exactly is the +12V rail and what does it do?

beatnuts96 · November 30th, 2006

12v rail powers devices in your comp such as cd roms, fans, hard drives, and vid cards that have external power plugs....

4pin molex is 12v
pci-e power is 12v
sata power is 12v

the more crap you have hooked up.... the more amps on the 12v rail you need...... for amd systems (754, 939, and 940) i would recommend at least 25 amps on that rail.....

i had a thermaltake 420w ps with 18amps on that rail..... and i was getting random reboots.... as soon as i got my enermax (best ps ive ever owned) that problem went away.....

thats why i asked how many devices you had hooked up after your very first post.....

yurimxpxman · December 1st, 2006

Update:

Surprise! The problem wasn't the PSU, either! April Fools! :P Remember I mentioned that I got a couple drops of thermal grease on the motherboard? I cleaned it up before I ever used the mobo and, strangely, it worked fine for the first day. But there seemed to be a small trace between the pins of one of the devices on the motherboard. So the other night I cleaned it up. Not expecting it to make any difference, I completely forgot to test my new Fortron PSU at all before I tested the NZXT PSU. Surprise, surprise. The Fortron worked fine when I tried it. All along, it was the small trace of thermal grease. I find it amazing that the motherboard suffered no permanent damage.

Edit: I also got the wireless working. The startup entry the drivers CD for my adapter created were causing a conflict with the Windows wireless networking service. Once I removed the startup entry, it worked fine. I'm on it right now :)

**One4yu2c** · December 1st, 2006

W00t! Here's to a successful outcome without any faulty hardware. And glad to hear the Fortron wasn't the culprit.

Capper · December 1st, 2006

blame it on Linux

November 30th, 2006	#33
Quakindude I'm Diggin it! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Fort Rucker, AL. Posts: 2,767 Blog Entries: 7	Fortron, made by FSP group, has always held up well for me in the past. The system you have listed shouldn't draw more than 325W max I wouldn't think. So you're well within the "Quakindude 10% rule for Power Supplies." I've always been of the opinion that I didn't want to put a PSU in a system unless I knew that system would only draw 90% of the PSU's rated maximum. I like to keep it at 85% if costs allow it. My system right now pulls in 450W, but I have a 700W PSU. I am of the opinion that you wouldn't do yourself any harm by trying an RMA on that one. While this 430W I have will certainly do the job, and if you need it you can have it, I would personally make the PSU manufacturer replace it. If for nothing else than the principle of the thing. Q6600@ 3.2GHz w/ CNPS9700 \| EVGA 780i \| 4Gb Patriot Extreme DDR2-800 5-5-5-12 \| EVGA GTX 280 1Gb Video \| 1x WD 640Gb HDD, 2x Seagate 400Gb HDD, 1x250Gb WD \| 2x Samsung SH-203B Opticals \| Antec 900 \| ABS/Tagan BZ700 700W PSU \| Zalman ZM-MFC1 Fan Controller

November 30th, 2006	#34
stinger608 Silence..Or I kill you! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In the Zone! Posts: 3,001 Blog Entries: 1	If you want a great PSU that supports all of the newest "stuff" for a good price, then check out this: Hiper modular Type R 580 watt PSU from Hipergroup They are great PSU's and look very cool to boot! HEATWARE

November 30th, 2006	#37
beatnuts96 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DUUUVAL!!! (Jacksonville, FL) Posts: 12	12v rail powers devices in your comp such as cd roms, fans, hard drives, and vid cards that have external power plugs.... 4pin molex is 12v pci-e power is 12v sata power is 12v the more crap you have hooked up.... the more amps on the 12v rail you need...... for amd systems (754, 939, and 940) i would recommend at least 25 amps on that rail..... i had a thermaltake 420w ps with 18amps on that rail..... and i was getting random reboots.... as soon as i got my enermax (best ps ive ever owned) that problem went away..... thats why i asked how many devices you had hooked up after your very first post..... AMD 3400 2.4ghz skt 754 \| MSI K8N Neo Platitnum 1.4 Bios \| 2 x 1GB Patriot LL (2-3-2-5) \| DiabloTek 6800GS 512 DDR3 \| Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB SATA \| WD 120 GB PATA \| Audigy 2 ZS \| Enermax Noisetaker 485W \| Razer Copperhead \|

December 1st, 2006	#40
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November 30th, 2006	#36
yurimxpxman Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: /home/yurimxpxman Posts: 1,695	I don't understand this rail stuff. Just what exactly is the +12V rail and what does it do?

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