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Old March 11th, 2008   #11
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Quick Google search on xp within vm on vista brings up a few sites, but they all seem to use virtual pc 2007.

Geek to Live: Run Windows XP inside Vista with Virtual PC

Run XP in Vista and vice-versa | Vista Rewired

http://www.vistahunt.com/how-to-run-windows-xp-under-windows-vista.html

for a **** like me it seems like these walk-throughs might be the best approach. I think I'll try this and see just how slow it is. If too slow I could then try something a bit more robust. My IT guy said he'd use VM Workstation.
It's not extremely slow but it does get on my nerves, even more once you test VMWare and see the difference. It's nothing very complicated, the best way is to download VMware Server/Workstation and/or VMware Player and ask your IT guy to provide you with a working image to test it out.
Using a VMware or any other virtualization software is just like having a computer infront of you. You'll need to install the OS in that computer, configure it, update it. You have an emulated BIOS with a few options. It's pretty neat you'll see.



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I got this guide from somewhere that I cant remember. I have shortend it and made changes to make it a little easier to understand.


Open the VMXwizard, select the Guest Operating System you will be installing (the Guest OS will be the OS ran on the Virtual Machine) and ram size (I would not use less than 256mb for Windows XP) click next.


Select disk size for the Guest OS. Set up enough disk space for what you need, size is really dependant on what your personal needs will be for the OS installed and programs you want to add later. So look at the base install size of XP and programs you want to add.


Next select the file path of an ISO image or choose the option to Auto detect a CD-rom drive. I would recommend leaving the default Auto detect CD-ROM. That way you can use your systems actual CD/DVD-ROM immediately.

The next step will be to choose a connection type, the best one I have used w/ out problems is the VM network (NAT) setup (acts kinda like a router for your VM's).

Next step is to choose a file name for your VM and location (I use the default path and name) it should be placed in the VMplayers file named My Virtual Machines or similar.

Click next then click finish and the wizard will auto lauch the VM you just created.

You have just created a .vmx file. (make sure the CD of the OS you will be installing is in the CD-rom drive at the time you start the vmx in VMplayer!!). The VMPlayer at this time functions like BIOS on your M/B/ You may need to tell it to boot to your CD-ROM. Now the the VMplayer starts the install process that you are accustomed to when you install an OS regularly. You have just made your first Virtual Machine. Once you have the OS install you should reboot it and install VMware Tools. The tools are very helpful in managing your VM’s and makes the transition form going back and forth between your computer and your VM’s more seamlessly. Good luck.

Simply put. VM is similar to creating a dual boot system. Only you don't need to reboot between the two OSes.
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One bit of info that I find helps, I always used the original ISO from the downloaded Linux to boot from and is much faster than booting from a disc. Now this may not be possible from Windows unless you create your own ISO from the original windows disc.







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Sounds like I need one of Virtual PC 2007, VMPlayer or VMWorkstation AND VMXWizard AND OS to install. Yes?

Virtual PC2007. VMPlayer or VMWorkstation is what creates VM inside Vista (for me).
VMXWizard is a "helper" program to help set everything up.

Thanks all - ps Tryten this looks like where you got your guide (How to Setup Your First Virtual Machine. [Archive] - Overclockers Forums)

OS is installed "inside" VM.

When I set RAM size I'm carving out some of my existing RAM that will be dedicated just to running my VM, right?

Does OS have to be installed same drive/directory as VM?




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Cool, that's the place.
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The OS will create a "virtual" hard drive in the space you set aside for it and will install everything needed within that drive. No need to worry about anything getting outside of that VM as it is all enclosed and the only outside communication is via a network connection as if it were a separate computer at your place.







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Sounds like I need one of Virtual PC 2007, VMPlayer or VMWorkstation AND VMXWizard AND OS to install. Yes?
Yes. VMPlayer, VMXWizard, and the OS are all needed. I dont know about the Virtual PC 2007 though.

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Virtual PC2007. VMPlayer or VMWorkstation is what creates VM inside Vista (for me).
VMXWizard is a "helper" program to help set everything up.
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Thanks all - ps Tryten this looks like where you got your guide (How to Setup Your First Virtual Machine. [Archive] - Overclockers Forums)
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OS is installed "inside" VM.
Yes.

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When I set RAM size I'm carving out some of my existing RAM that will be dedicated just to running my VM, right?
Correct.

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Does OS have to be installed same drive/directory as VM?
Yes. Once you get to that step it will look exactly like you are installing the OS to a physical drive. The OS doesnt know the difference. It thinks its installing it to a C: drive when it is actually installing on a file... the .vmx file.
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Cool. Guess its time to head back to NewEgg to buy XP Pro. Sigh, another $140 blown. At least the rest of it is free!




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VirtualPC 2007 is a Microsoft version of VMWare that is free. VMWare just has more options for free and paid versions. I have Server installing now and going to open a previous Linux VM that I had under VPC07







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