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Old August 31st, 2006   #21
 
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Default Can't resist

I have to throw in my own two cents on the security/firewall/virus discussion.

1. I ran either Norton or Mcafee for about 10 years on multiple home computers connected with and without routers and never once in all that time was there ever a virus notification on any of the machines. I personally think it was huge waste of money and effort to keep them up to date and uninstalled when they screwed up and even reinstalling Windows because of them numerous times (especially from Mcafee).

I think my virus protection all those years was due to a few simple rules. No pop-ups......no Outlook.........no Hotmail......and the only attachments that could be opened were pictures. Those rules kept me much safer that any crap virus scanning.

2. I also ran many combinations of software and hardware firewalls. And I have to agree that you can definitely see the performance hit from the software firewalls that I have used. I can also see the difference between using the XP firewall and not using it. I suppose that one is a matter of opinion. But percepttion is reality.

3. So currently I have 3 machines on a home network with 2 wireless routers that both have hardware firewalls. I have no virus protection on any of the machines. There are also no software firewalls on any of them. So I thought I'd click that link and see what shields up said. I find it pretty ammusing. Hope you do too.

Your Internet port 139 does not appear to exist!
One or more ports on this system are operating in FULL STEALTH MODE! Standard Internet behavior requires port connection attempts to be answered with a success or refusal response. Therefore, only an attempt to connect to a nonexistent computer results in no response of either kind. But YOUR computer has DELIBERATELY CHOSEN NOT TO RESPOND (that's very cool!) which represents advanced computer and port stealthing capabilities. A machine configured in this fashion is well hardened to Internet NetBIOS attack and intrusion.
Unable to connect with NetBIOS to your computer.
All attempts to get any information from your computer have FAILED. (This is very uncommon for a Windows networking-based PC.) Relative to vulnerabilities from Windows networking, this computer appears to be VERY SECURE since it is NOT exposing ANY of its internal NetBIOS networking protocol over the Internet.

Your system has achieved a perfect "TruStealth" rating. Not a single packet — solicited or otherwise — was received from your system as a result of our security probing tests. Your system ignored and refused to reply to repeated Pings (ICMP Echo Requests). From the standpoint of the passing probes of any hacker, this machine does not exist on the Internet. Some questionable personal security systems expose their users by attempting to "counter-probe the prober", thus revealing themselves. But your system wisely remained silent in every way. Very nice.




Port
Service
Status Security Implications

0
<nil>
Stealth There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that a port (or even any computer) exists at this IP address!

21
FTP
Stealth There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that a port (or even any computer) exists at this IP address!

22
SSH
Stealth There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that a port (or even any computer) exists at this IP address!

23
Telnet
Stealth There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that a port (or even any computer) exists at this IP address!

25
SMTP
Stealth There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that a port (or even any computer) exists at this IP address!

79
Finger
Stealth There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that a port (or even any computer) exists at this IP address!

80
HTTP
Stealth There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that a port (or even any computer) exists at this IP address!

110
POP3
Stealth There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that a port (or even any computer) exists at this IP address!

113
IDENT
Stealth There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that a port (or even any computer) exists at this IP address!

119
NNTP
Stealth There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that a port (or even any computer) exists at this IP address!

135
RPC
Stealth There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that a port (or even any computer) exists at this IP address!

139
Net
BIOS
Stealth There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that a port (or even any computer) exists at this IP address!

143
IMAP
Stealth There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that a port (or even any computer) exists at this IP address!

389
LDAP
Stealth There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that a port (or even any computer) exists at this IP address!

443
HTTPS
Stealth There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that a port (or even any computer) exists at this IP address!

445
MSFT
DS
Stealth There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that a port (or even any computer) exists at this IP address!

1002
ms-ils
Stealth There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that a port (or even any computer) exists at this IP address!

1024
DCOM
Stealth There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that a port (or even any computer) exists at this IP address!

1025
Host
Stealth There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that a port (or even any computer) exists at this IP address!

1026
Host
Stealth There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that a port (or even any computer) exists at this IP address!

1027
Host
Stealth There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that a port (or even any computer) exists at this IP address!

1028
Host
Stealth There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that a port (or even any computer) exists at this IP address!

1029
Host
Stealth There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that a port (or even any computer) exists at this IP address!

1030
Host
Stealth There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that a port (or even any computer) exists at this IP address!

1720
H.323
Stealth There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that a port (or even any computer) exists at this IP address!

5000
UPnP
Stealth There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that a port (or even any computer) exists at this IP address!


All of the other tests that I ran spit out results that are just as ammusing.

So, just like in real life.........your behavior has more to do with your safety than the 7 foot gorrila that you hired to protect you.



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