New build(possibly) need critique's

[Yellowhello]

OK, I see what your saying Paul. I understand about the IC thing now, and I fully and totally agree with you.

So what your saying about the 1066MHz kits is that he should go with some 1066MHz kit and not the OCZ?

[duckingzebra]

listen to you learned folk :) i got a question, having your memory running at 1000 mhz instead of the 800mhz, is that going to shorten the lifespan of it?

edit: YAY I GOT THE FRIGGEN SIGNATURE TO WORK!!

[Yellowhello]

Originally Posted by duckingzebra

listen to you learned folk :) i got a question, having your memory running at 1000 mhz instead of the 800mhz, is that going to shorten the lifespan of it?

edit: YAY I GOT THE FRIGGEN SIGNATURE TO WORK!!

If you buy a 1066MHz kit, and that's the stock speed of it, then I don't believe it will. I think it has more to do with voltages.............

[One4yu2c]

Originally Posted by yellowhello

So what your saying about the 1066MHz kits is that he should go with some 1066MHz kit and not the OCZ?

No, I'm saying that he should spend $76 on that OCZ 800 and save $50+ in the process. I pointed out the 1066 kits to emphasize why it doesn't make sense to shell out $50 more on a different 800 kit.

Originally Posted by duckingzebra

i got a question, having your memory running at 1000 mhz instead of the 800mhz, is that going to shorten the lifespan of it?

In theory, possibly yes. In reality, not likely. Some of the enthusiast level 800 kits are capable of higher frequencies, but as touched on previously, are clocked down to meet a market demand. Same chips, just spec'd different before being shipped.

Overclocking always comes with a risk, which can never be eliminated 100%. What you can do is tip the tables in your favor by taking precautions. While a higher frequency means a part is working harder, if you can keep the voltage down, maintain adequate airflow, and pass a series of stress tests (in other words, is it stable?), then you've got a fairly safe OC on your hands.

[duckingzebra]

think that humongous fan is worth the extra money ?? cause i think i just changed my mind on my case choice :)

Thermaltake Armor VA8000SWA Silver Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail

Thermaltake Armor Series VA8003SWA Silver ATX Full Tower Computer Case w/ 25CM Fan - Retail

[Capper]

Originally Posted by ST!X

HAHA I year ya YH. Always good to have the support!

I personally am IN LOVE with my Crucial Ballistix. I bought the 667MHz version that has 3-3-3-12, constantly telling myself that it will easily OC to 800MHz when I raise it to 4-4-4-12 (which is the stock timing values for 800MHz). Now...I took it home a little nervous...and...

IT'S RUNNING 900+MHz ON 2.25v (only 0.05 above stock for both speeds) AND FULLY STABLE!

These Micron D9 chips are just AMAZING! I wonder what the 800MHz stock could O/C to...1000...ANY BEYOND!

Thats not really how things work......

I also try to get people to keep their voltages for DDR2 below 2.2V, anything over that and you risk killing your memory. Its not the timings or clock speed that will kill it, its the voltage and heat that it generates........You can push the memory to the point of instability with the default voltage, but its unlikely to kill it.

Also, every kit is different, the ICs used on your particular kit, and batch, might not be used on the next batch, or the next batch may not OC as well as yours....there are a lot of particulars that come into play.

The best option is to get a good DDR2-800 kit, like the OCZ kit Paul mentioned, then, regardless of your OC, you are guaranteed DDR2-800, which is the minimum I'd recommend nowadays.....DDR2-667 isn't worth the trouble, and I hate to see someone spend money on it thinking they'll see DDR2-900, and get nuetered at DDR2-750 or so.

[One4yu2c]

I'd go for the 25cm fan version...

[Capper]

The Armor Extreme is hands down one of my favorite all time cases. Extremely durable, great cable management, plenty of room, and the side panel with fan does a great job of cooling not only the motherboard, but the video card as well.

[duckingzebra]

ok update: im changing the case :)

Thermaltake Armor Series VA8003SWA Silver ATX Full Tower Computer Case w/ 25CM Fan - Retail

and again, id like to thank everyone for there input, and i was waiting for you to chime in rich, u have any suggestions?

[Capper]

Paul pretty much covered everything.....wait for the price cuts, and maybe consider an Intel chipset for the motherboard (either a P35 or an X38, after they hit the market).