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Old March 12th, 2008   #11
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Isn't the processor warranty voided if you use anything other than the stock cooler?
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Old March 12th, 2008   #12
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Isn't the processor warranty voided if you use anything other than the stock cooler?
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Couldn't find easily any docs on Intel website concerning the use of a third party heatsink and fan assembly. They in their warranty paper that they reserve the right not to honour the warranty if they have reasons to think or know the processor was not used properly but don't mention exactly if properly also means with the stock heatsink assembly.
They also talk about OEM selling computer with adequate cooling that must have passed test and blah blah. It's one of those questions I think it would be better to ask an Intel rep.



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Old March 12th, 2008   #13
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The warranty that came with my AMD processor states in bold font that they'll only honor the 3 year warranty if and only if the stock cooler is used. I'm almost positive Intel is the same.
I also know that some OEM manufacturer's use HSFs that almost look identical to the stock ones but are a different brand. They buy the processors in bulk OEM and the fans separately. The Phenom's in the new HP's are cooled with a heatsink that has a big fat Coolermaster label slapped on the fan. The Dell I own has a passive(?!) heatsink on my 2.4GHz Northwood with a fan shroud setup. They can do this because the parts they sell you are covered under their own in-house warranty and not through Intel/AMD.



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Old March 12th, 2008   #14
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nothing that I found in Intels warranty says anything about using another cooler... I've looked at the paper versions and online versions.







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Old March 12th, 2008   #15
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I'd add that Dell and every other generic builder use stock cooling, and arguably have the worst case setups in the world.......and its rare to see a processor die from overheating.
Exactly. Talking to ex-Intel engineer buddy of mine very much in the fray, I think most users would be quite surprised at how high the temps ramp up when Q/A testing a processor. It's just not true that a stock cooler, backed with a 3-year warranty, would be insufficient when not OCing, not going for a quieter computing experience, or not restricted with abnormally harsh airflow conditions.

Further muddying the waters, today's procs use much better sensor technology/readings than 1.5-2+ years ago, particularly CoreTemp and TAT. In many cases, that has led to higher readings than what users were accustomed to seeing pre-Core 2 architecture days.

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nothing that I found in Intels warranty says anything about using another cooler... I've looked at the paper versions and online versions.
The warranty terminology doesn't implicitly spell it out the way AMD's does, but would fall under "properly used and installed" and "usage not in accordance with product instructions[...]improper installation." Documentation that accompanies retail procs instruct users to use the stock heatsink.

In practice however, reps are usually willing to work with you on that (see Halutz's thread in the Support forum), assuming you volunteer that info in the first place. And really, it's extremely rare for a processor to die outside of abuse and external factors, such as a flaky power supply or power surge.



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Old March 12th, 2008   #16
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I'm using the stock cooler on a couple quads that are oc'd to 2.8 and 2.9 GHz with no problems at all.

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I've had no problems with the stock cooler on my Q6600... idles around 35C, maxes around 48C. I haven't seen it hit 50C... of course, while using IC Diamond 7 (this stuff kicks ass). The stock thermal compound had temperatures about 8C more than this stuff...

If I ever overclock, I think the stock cooler will be fine with it as well...



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The Intel stock cooler is actually quite effective at stock settings. Impressively so. Depending on the VID of a CPU, you can actually see some fairly decent overclocks using one. My E6600 went to 2.8GHz while staying comfortably below 60°C.

Your case setup, CPU VID and installation of the stock cooler will all play a part in how effective that cooler is. But to ding the stock cooler is short-sighted. There's absolutely no reason what-so-ever to upgrade the stock cooler as long as your temps aren't an issue. And the stock cooler performs fairly decently for what it is.



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Stress or don't stress (at stock speed/volts), gaming or internet use, a third party cooler is not a necessity in a "normal midtower". Obviously temps will go down with a higher end cooler, but you can play Crysis and other games on the stock cooler without fear the proc will up and die, provided there aren't any serious airflow problems occurring.
Definitely. Stock coolers can even take a mild OC of a few hundred MHZ. Like I took the Stock cooler from my Quad Xeon and put it on an E6550 and OCed it to 3.0ghz no problem at all. The stock heatsink for the quads have a bit thicker copper core and that's it.

As has been said, if you want to really OC and keep the temps down then a 3rd party cooler is needed.



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