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Old March 21st, 2007   #21
 
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Well, I would really like water cooling overall. The Pentosin G11 Coolant Additive claims that their coolant is good for both aluminum and copper combination cooling system!!! I would also agree upon adding a radiator and the pump I've got already in the system, the Eheim 1250 Pump because I'm using external pump with Reserator 2
Pentosin is a great coolant additive. You WILL want an all copper loop. Pentosin on it's own will not give you the greatest temps you can achieve. If you are going to use some aluminum, 80-90% distilled water and 20-10% pentosin is a good combination.




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I certainly wouldn't ditch the Reserator. That's an outstanding system. Adding the 240mm radiator, whoever makes the one you choose, would be an excellent addition to your current setup.

The Pentosin additive seems like a great product to reduce/eliminate your chances of dissimilar metal corrosion. Some people make it sound like you'll have a totally corroded water cooling system in a week, blowing up your expensive components, if you use dissimilar metals in the same system. However, the reality is that if you're running some type of additive in your distilled water, like 1 part additive to 4 parts water, and you flush your system out bi-annually, the chances for corrosion build up are quite small.

I'd go with the Pentosin you've linked to and use whatever ratio it tells you to in the directions.



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I certainly wouldn't ditch the Reserator. That's an outstanding system. Adding the 240mm radiator, whoever makes the one you choose, would be an excellent addition to your current setup.

The Pentosin additive seems like a great product to reduce/eliminate your chances of dissimilar metal corrosion. Some people make it sound like you'll have a totally corroded water cooling system in a week, blowing up your expensive components, if you use dissimilar metals in the same system. However, the reality is that if you're running some type of additive in your distilled water, like 1 part additive to 4 parts water, and you flush your system out bi-annually, the chances for corrosion build up are quite small.

I'd go with the Pentosin you've linked to and use whatever ratio it tells you to in the directions.
By ditch, I meant take it out of the loop. Most high-performning rads not made by thermaltake are made out of copper. When you expose that much copper to that much aluminum, the corrosion process will speed up pretty fast. Anyways, here is a very good rad

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I certainly wouldn't ditch the Reserator. That's an outstanding system. Adding the 240mm radiator, whoever makes the one you choose, would be an excellent addition to your current setup.
Thanks so much for saying something good about Reserator 2 otherwise every other person blaiming me for the war of the world :bawling:
If you think adding radiator would solve heating issue, I'll do it. And I would get the coolant also. Even the coolant company states that it can be used for aluminum and copper combo systems.
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I certainly wouldn't ditch the Reserator. That's an outstanding system. Adding the 240mm radiator, whoever makes the one you choose, would be an excellent addition to your current setup.

The Pentosin additive seems like a great product to reduce/eliminate your chances of dissimilar metal corrosion. Some people make it sound like you'll have a totally corroded water cooling system in a week, blowing up your expensive components, if you use dissimilar metals in the same system. However, the reality is that if you're running some type of additive in your distilled water, like 1 part additive to 4 parts water, and you flush your system out bi-annually, the chances for corrosion build up are quite small.

I'd go with the Pentosin you've linked to and use whatever ratio it tells you to in the directions.
No. I'm going to have to disagree with you. If you are going to add a new radiator just get rid of the Reserator, it's not going to do anything for you

Pentosin is not a product that is designed for computer water cooling usage. I can't remember which car companies use it, but it is an automotive antifreeze. Even when using Pentosin I GUARANTEE you WILL notice corrosion in one year even if you change the coolant bi-annually.

By getting rid of the Reserator and getting a purpose-built radiator from Swiftech, Hardware Labs, or Thermochill, you will have a full copper loop. You won't need Pentosin, FluidXP or any of that crap anymore. You can run pure distilled and just a few drops of anti-algae.

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I am not saying that the Reserator is a bad cooler. It's perfectly fine for a stock system but once you start adding stuff like 2 8 series cards your just asking too much from it.




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I was intending towards adding Thermaltake Aqua TMG2 radiator with reserator 2 and Pentosin in the system and was thinking that would be the end of this hot story but I guess thats not it.

OK, now I'm at the point to drop everything down esps Reserator 2. So tell me, I would buy an external radiator, reservoir (ofcourse it'll be two reservoir setup since I've ThermalTake AquaBay M3 Reservoir and ofcourse need to replace CPU block as well. So any suggestion for these and THE COOLANT please!!!

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I was intending towards adding Thermaltake Aqua TMG2 radiator with reserator 2 and Pentosin in the system and was thinking that would be the end of this hot story but I guess thats not it.

OK, now I'm at the point to drop everything down esps Reserator 2. So tell me, I would buy an external radiator, reservoir (ofcourse it'll be two reservoir setup since I've ThermalTake AquaBay M3 Reservoir and ofcourse need to replace CPU block as well. So any suggestion for these and THE COOLANT please!!!
All you need is:
A Pump, a CPU Block (if you wanted to cool the cpu), a radiator, fans, a t-line barb and cap, distilled water, aquarium algaecide, and some hoseclamps.

Thats it. You will have superior cooling compared to anything you can get with thermaltake or zalman.

Since you said you want external, pick up the swiftech radbox and the mcr-220qp. The mcr-220 is a low noise radiator that you can hang off the back of your case using the radbox. That dual radiator should give you decent temperatures with a cpu and two videocards but your starting to push the limits. If you wanted to be safe than sorry get the mcr-330. It's the triple version of the 220.

Fans... it's up to you but I'd pickup some low speed Yate Loons. They are cheap, quiet, and suitable for the MCR.

and coolant... As I mentioned before, by replacing all your components with suitable ones, your loop will be ALL COPPER. Only Pure Distilled water and an algaecide is needed. Petras Tech Shop (Petra's Tech Shop) sells a biocide that does it's job very well.




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No. I'm going to have to disagree with you. If you are going to add a new radiator just get rid of the Reserator, it's not going to do anything for you

Pentosin is not a product that is designed for computer water cooling usage. I can't remember which car companies use it, but it is an automotive antifreeze. Even when using Pentosin I GUARANTEE you WILL notice corrosion in one year even if you change the coolant bi-annually.

By getting rid of the Reserator and getting a purpose-built radiator from Swiftech, Hardware Labs, or Thermochill, you will have a full copper loop. You won't need Pentosin, FluidXP or any of that crap anymore. You can run pure distilled and just a few drops of anti-algae.



I am not saying that the Reserator is a bad cooler. It's perfectly fine for a stock system but once you start adding stuff like 2 8 series cards your just asking too much from it.
Here's my thinking on it.

One, if the guy has a Reserator, he probably puts silence far up on his list of desired attributes. The TT 240mm cooler is fairly quiet for having two 120mm fans.

Two. As far as the aluminum vs. copper argument goes, then I guess all the engineers at Zalman and many other after-market cooling companies should be fired and hire you. They have an aluminum/copper mixture of parts and pieces. I stand by what I've recommended. Pentosin is an automotive coolant engineered to withstand much higher temperatures and corrosion inducing conditions than you'll ever find in your computers W/C system. Especially with anodized aluminum water blocks. So since other coolants made for automotive use are commonly used in W/C setups, why should this one be excluded? And never mind the guys at [H]ard|Forum who swear by it.

Order whatever 240mm radiator and fan system you want. Add it to your loop. If it sucks, then come back here, tell me it sucked and then buy the other parts needed to remove your Reserator. Then, sell the Reserator here or on Ebay. Or use it to cool an HTPC setup. I haven't personally used the Reserator2 and a 240mm rad/fan combo, but with a 1.25L capacity, I'd be willing to bet $10 that it will make a decent difference.



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I think its worth trying

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I was thinking about placing the radiator like Reserator, so that I can use Eheim 1250 pump (which I already have) for the flow. Also I've ThermalTake AquaBay M3 Reservoir within the case in 5 1/2 bay.
Just one GTS would make that little bitty reservoir cry. Much less two. You need volume, flow and cooling surface to effectively cool a machine like yours.



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