Decisions...

[Tyreal]

Originally Posted by yellowhello

I have a question... If a copper block is plated in nickel, for example, does the plating affect performance at all? Also... If you have a copper block plated in aluminum in an aluminum loop (like the Zalman) will corrosion happen?

Sorry, I'm not totally certain on this. If a copper block is plated in nickel it probably does affect performance but not by an amount that really matters at all. I know Thermalright heatsinks have nickel plating on the base (on top of copper).

I do not believe corrosion will occur if a copper block is plated in aluminum but I would be safe and just stay away from mixing.

[frostybrad]

so would a unit like this be useful to me.

Swiftech H20-120 Compact Liquid Cooling Kit w/Apogee Drive

I could also replace the rad with this one...


NCIX.com - Buy Swiftech MCR220 Quiet Power Dual 120MM Water Cooling Radiator Black G1/4 Threaded - MCR220-QP-K In Canada.


seems simple enough to use and install. Plus its Black ad wouild go with the case beautifully.....I think it would look pretty cool on the case, but I guess looks aren't what we are after here are we :)........ I don't have a vast amount of $$$$ to spend on this. im probably gonna take some heat from the common-law girlfriend for even bringing this up. I come to know her well enough that if I leave enough hints around, agazine on the watercooling pages, print outs of stats on differnet cooling systems, she eventually gets the hint, and it almost seems like if I let this go on long enough, its as if I had already boughten it and then we are golden when it arrives at the door!!!!! :)

anyways, getting back to my link.... Yes------- or --------NO

thanks guys I appreciate all the chit chat and help, your good friends!!!

[Elysium]

You can get that kit with that rad, but only use it for a CPU loop. I don't know how much more that rad could handle...

[frostybrad]

even if I upgraded the rad to a bigger one, or is it the problem with only have 1 fan stilll cooling it?

[Tyreal]

That will not work out... Tell me your budget and I will tell you what you should get.

[frostybrad]

Well, I have not set a budget..... if this happens and I mean if....... im looking for something that isn't gonna leave wires and tubes and fluid all over the place. Somehting nice and neat and clean looking. there is no room in my drivebays, there is no room for a resivoir and pump inside the case. The thing needs to be mounted outide the case. Mind you it would probably be something inregards to a few hundred dollars if its just the CPU being cooled. If I end up doing the GPU's, then obviously it would be more exspensive. I guess im saying, start with the CPU, and hopefully leaving the door open for the GPU's.... if that makes any sence.

fire wawy and Ill go window shopping...... :)


according to them this is what it would look like... CPU and 2 gpu's on the same loop.... the last gpu would be getting hot water wouldn't it? looks freakin awesome though


does this not look cool though??

[Elysium]

This the best external kit your gonna find: Home of the WaterKeg's !!!

[polobunny]

Originally Posted by frostybrad

Well, I have not set a budget..... if this happens and I mean if....... im looking for something that isn't gonna leave wires and tubes and fluid all over the place. Somehting nice and neat and clean looking. there is no room in my drivebays, there is no room for a resivoir and pump inside the case. The thing needs to be mounted outide the case. Mind you it would probably be something inregards to a few hundred dollars if its just the CPU being cooled. If I end up doing the GPU's, then obviously it would be more exspensive. I guess im saying, start with the CPU, and hopefully leaving the door open for the GPU's.... if that makes any sence.

fire wawy and Ill go window shopping...... :)


according to them this is what it would look like... CPU and 2 gpu's on the same loop.... the last gpu would be getting hot water wouldn't it? looks freakin awesome though


does this not look cool though??

frostybrad, think a second how it works and you'll see that the second GPU is not going to get a much hotter water than the first one. You have to think that the water flows, it's drawing the heat away from everything that heats, and the radiator(s) are cooling this water. The temperature doesn't drastically heat and cool in the loop, it's all very "constant".

Edit: What you really have to worry about is if your radiator is gonna be able to cool the water "fast enough", faster than the components heat it.

[Elysium]

Originally Posted by polobunny

frostybrad, think a second how it works and you'll see that the second GPU is not going to get a much hotter water than the first one. You have to think that the water flows, it's drawing the heat away from everything that heats, and the radiator(s) are cooling this water. The temperature doesn't drastically heat and cool in the loop, it's all very "constant".

Edit: What you really have to worry about is if your radiator is gonna be able to cool the water "fast enough", faster than the components heat it.

True, in water cooling, there is not much fluctuation in temps (compared to air cooling). Idle and load temps are usually within 7-10C of each other (for me anyway).

[frostybrad]

OKay, SO IM STARTING TO PAY ATTENTION HERE AND UNDERSTAND BETTER....... sorry for the caps...


I can move my bottom hardrive up to the middle bay, leaving the bottom bay completely open for a Pump and Resivoir, which I think would be completely hidden out of sight. I didn't think of this before becasue I had always wanted to keep the middle bay open for the direct air flow from the fansd onot the GPU's..... but since I may be watercooling them...... I don't need it anymore and if anything the move will only keep the hardrive cooler!!!

So.. buyign this kit...

NCIX.com - Buy Swiftech H20-220 Apex Ultra Universal CPU Liquid Cooling Kit - H20-220-APEX-Ultra In Canada.

should work in what I want to accomplish or should I use these parts as a guide and piece together somehting very similar? Pieceing it piece by piece might make the purchase cheaper?? Or is the kit perfectly fine to buy as is? Don't forget the addition of the Stealth GPU blocks. Understand this kit doesn't include GPU blocks (and I know the Ultra plus does, but why pay more for a block I don't want in the kit)


Althought 2 questions.... does the resivoir have to be at a certain height or can it be at the bottom of the case next to the pump (im assuming it would have something to do with the flow of things??

second..... do you cut these hoses to suit for desired lengths or are they already predetermined? Looking at the photo in the link, I'd need a much longer hose to read the resivoir at the bottom of the case, if indeed I can mount it there.