LDT Frequency in Bios

[Capper]

The best way to see if a setting makes any difference is to test it... I know its time consuming, but run some benchmarks and see what yeilds the best results.

[jph1589]

Originally Posted by Capper

You didn't bring up a sore subject...you simply asked for clarification on something you didn't understand....which is why we are here....don't let someones opinion make you feel bad.

II'm personally a big fan of ECS.....I think they have made huge leaps and bounds, from a board maker people used to laugh at (you'd get a feee ECS board with a CPU in a Fry's bundle) to a very stable board that featured a great bundle. ECS may not make the best overclocking boards, but they are a great board for those who are happy running their systems stock or mildly OC'd. I kind of laugh when I hear people mention DFI and ASUS....as it is, every board maker has issues, bue it the BIOS, the layout, or the features....no board is perfect. A lot of the problems can be traced to the chipset makers....a lot of people are complaining about NVIDIA's INTEL offerings, VIAis basically hated in the enthusiast world, ATI is slow and methodical (not a problerm as I appreciate a company that values doing things right), and INTEL's offering are really a mess).
My philosophy on motherboards is different than most. I honestly don't understand people that go buy the biggest and baddest processor, then match it with a high end motherboard....those proccessors have the smallest headroom, and the extrweme motherboards are simply a waste of money....why not match that CPU with a board that maybe isn't a great OC'er, but a board thats incredibly stable and feature rich......on the other end of the spectrum, match that ES6300 or 3800+ AM2 that has much more headroom with a extreme board that does OC well, so you are getting the most out of both.

I've tried to type a response to this 4 times without being rude, but I'm just not getting there. When I read the entire thread from top to bottom, I have no idea who's opinion to believe.
To answer your comment below about testing, read above,,,,,I already did that and stated the results in this thread.

[Capper]

How was it a complete waste of time? You got some answers.....One4 even condensed them for you.....and as I said, the best way to find out is to test the various settings and see if you see any difference in the results (BTW, The LDT is not just an AMD thing, its an NVIDIA thing). As you go, I think you'll realize that many setting have little effect on overall performance, although some may affect stability at various overclocks

[One4yu2c]

Originally Posted by jph1589

When I read the entire thread from top to bottom, I have no idea who's opinion to believe. It was a complete waste of time.

My hunch is that Blake wasn't aware that Intel's nForce4 SLI platform used a HyperTransport link between the North and Southbridge. On AMD platforms, it's a single chip design (excpet for the nForce4 X16 SLI), and for a long time, HyperTransport was synonymous with AMD. Here's a dissection of the chipset on (XBitLabs):

• Although its predecessor, nForce4 for Athlon 64 processors boasted single-chip architecture, NVIDIA decided not to add the memory controller into the same chip. This way, the chipset North Bridge of NVIDIA nForce4 SLI (Intel Edition) called System Performance Processor (SPP) is a combination of the memory controller, processor interface and PCI Express bus controller. The South Bridge also known as Media and Communication Processor (MCP) ensures that the chipset support Serial ATA, network capabilities, PCI busses, integrated sound and USB busses.
  
  The North and the South bridges of the chipset are linked together with the Hyper Transport bus, which is not so typical of the Pentium 4 platforms. This bus works at 800MHz frequency and provides 1.6GB/s bandwidth in each direction...

LDT (Lightening Data Transport) is just a shortened way of saying HyperTransport. For another source of this info, here's an Anandtech article (LINK) comparing an Intel nForce4 SLI motherboard (MSI P4N Diamond) to an Intel 955X motherboard (GigaByte GA-8I955X Royal). In the features chart, notice about half way down this listing:

• LDT (HyperTransport) Ratios

Hope this clears up any remaining confusion...

[jph1589]

That is very helpful.........can i assume that increasing the FSB also increases the LDT then? That would be the only reason they would give you the ability to lower it.....wouldn't it?

[One4yu2c]

Originally Posted by jph1589

That is very helpful.........can i assume that increasing the FSB also increases the LDT then? That would be the only reason they would give you the ability to lower it.....wouldn't it?

Correct. And that's where you could potentially yield better overclocking results, depending on how sensitive that link is to running at a higher frequency.

[Lead Head]

the HyperTransport base speed is 200Mhz, and 4x is 800Mhz, so idimagine he would have quite a bit of headroom, at leat 100-200Mhz without having to worry about the LDT