AMD next-gen unveiled - Page 2

Lead Head · May 5th, 2007

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Originally Posted by qazwsx

so would DDR3 show any more preformance for say a core 2 duo e6600 or would it just bottleneck?

Well, even QX6700s don't seem to be limited by DDR2 yet, Intel's next gen might be however

fps justin · May 6th, 2007

Ehh. No big deal. Didn't some ppl do some benchmarks with their top end cpus? The quadcore ones. Something like only a maximum of 6% increase in performance over a quadcore Woodcrest.

**Capper** · May 7th, 2007

we'll just have to wait and see.......DDR3 is closer than you think, as are the new chipsets and motherboards that support it

Carl Martin · May 7th, 2007

I don't know about you guys, but I'm really P.O.'d at AMD. I paid a lot of $$$ for my FX55 and now if I want to upgrade it I'm going to have to change processors, mobos, and ram. Whatever marketing or design genius thought that abandoning 939 would endear AMD to its customers is gravely mistaken. When I upgrade, I will probably make the move to Intel.

Lead Head · May 7th, 2007

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Originally Posted by Carl Martin

I don't know about you guys, but I'm really P.O.'d at AMD. I payed a lot of $$$ for my FX55 and now if I want to upgrade it I'm going to have to change processors, mobos, and ram. Whatever marketing or design genius thought that abandoning 939 would endear AMD to its customers is gravely mistaken. When I upgrade, I will probably make the move to Intel.

The switch had to come, mainly because of DDR production dropping off, and they DDR does not really have that much bandwith compared to DDR2. Intel doesn't have the best track record with sockets either.

Quakindude · May 7th, 2007

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Originally Posted by Lead Head

Intel doesn't have the best track record with sockets either.

Very true. Intel users have been experiencing this same frustration for the whole Netburst based CPU run. And then some.

Moving from s939 to AM2 and now on to AM3 and above are simply signs of a CPU manufacturer trying hard to keep up with 1. The competition and 2. The leaps in technology. Now if you want to be pissed to be an AMD owner, an AM2 based mobo owner has every right to be upset. Just like a lot of Intel mobo owners were when Intel popped up with the Core2Duo CPU. Very little foresight that CPU was coming out and the large majority of mobo's wouldn't support it. Even though Intel made it on the current LGA775 socket, most mobo's wouldn't go to the much lower voltages the C2D CPU's use.

**gvblake22** · May 7th, 2007

Not a big fan of the "Phenom" model name, but whatever...
Looks like an interesting first lineup. Good to see them already out with a 2.8GHz model, that means that maybe they can get higher clock speeds out of this new architecture (even better news for overclockers). What is even more intersting though is the dynamic bus frequency! Notice how all the different models have different bus speeds unlike Intel's 800MHz FSB for all E4xxx series chips and 1066MHz for all E6xxx series. I'm very excited to see what this new architecture is capable of, seems very uniuqe. Like Capper said, AMD is in dire need of an architecture upgrade. The Athlons are getting almost as tired as Intel's Pentiums were...

**One4yu2c** · May 7th, 2007

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Originally Posted by Carl Martin

I don't know about you guys, but I'm really P.O.'d at AMD. I payed a lot of $$$ for my FX55 and now if I want to upgrade it I'm going to have to change processors, mobos, and ram. Whatever marketing or design genius thought that abandoning 939 would endear AMD to its customers is gravely mistaken. When I upgrade, I will probably make the move to Intel.

Welcome to the world of PC building and upgrading..

screwballl · May 7th, 2007

get ready because DDR3 is just around the corner...
then there will be AM2+ and AM3 for AMD.. then who knows what for Intel as they always have too many sockets and procs that are too close together.

Dr. V · May 7th, 2007

amd needs to, from now on, keep up with intel and dish out new CPUs as soon as they can. the new architecture and what they have now looks like it can easily overtake intel if looked at and executed correctly...

they have to keep up.

May 6th, 2007	#12
fps justin Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 1,199	Re: AMD next-gen unveiled Ehh. No big deal. Didn't some ppl do some benchmarks with their top end cpus? The quadcore ones. Something like only a maximum of 6% increase in performance over a quadcore Woodcrest. E2140 @ 375 x 8 = 3.0ghz 2x1 ocz system 1337s pc2-6400 5-5-5-15 @ 450mhz gigabyte P35 S3L eVGA 7600GT Stock 120 gig seagate ULTRA X-Finity 600w Sonata 2 w/ top fan G5 Lazer Mouse

May 7th, 2007	#13
Capper We take both criticism and positive comments very positively Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 5,856 Blog Entries: 6	Re: AMD next-gen unveiled we'll just have to wait and see.......DDR3 is closer than you think, as are the new chipsets and motherboards that support it INTEL E8400 // Gigabyte EP45 Extreme // 4GB DDR3-1600 // Palit HD 4870 // Antec 1200 // Seagate 750GB HDD // Zalman CNPS9700 // BFG ES 800W PSU

May 7th, 2007	#14
Carl Martin vincit qui se vincit Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Upper Michigan Posts: 455	Re: AMD next-gen unveiled I don't know about you guys, but I'm really P.O.'d at AMD. I paid a lot of $$$ for my FX55 and now if I want to upgrade it I'm going to have to change processors, mobos, and ram. Whatever marketing or design genius thought that abandoning 939 would endear AMD to its customers is gravely mistaken. When I upgrade, I will probably make the move to Intel. Core 2 Duo E6750 Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Abit IP35 Pro 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2 800 EVGA 8800GT 500GB Seagate Barracuda 32MB Cache Coolermaster RC-690 OCZ StealthXStream 600 watt Acer AL2216W 22" monitor Windows XP Pro SP2

May 7th, 2007	#17
gvblake22 Modder-ator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tempe Desert Posts: 6,411 Blog Entries: 1	Re: AMD next-gen unveiled Not a big fan of the "Phenom" model name, but whatever... Looks like an interesting first lineup. Good to see them already out with a 2.8GHz model, that means that maybe they can get higher clock speeds out of this new architecture (even better news for overclockers). What is even more intersting though is the dynamic bus frequency! Notice how all the different models have different bus speeds unlike Intel's 800MHz FSB for all E4xxx series chips and 1066MHz for all E6xxx series. I'm very excited to see what this new architecture is capable of, seems very uniuqe. Like Capper said, AMD is in dire need of an architecture upgrade. The Athlons are getting almost as tired as Intel's Pentiums were...

May 7th, 2007	#19
screwballl Colonel Calamity Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sandy South Posts: 6,279 Blog Entries: 6	Re: AMD next-gen unveiled get ready because DDR3 is just around the corner... then there will be AM2+ and AM3 for AMD.. then who knows what for Intel as they always have too many sockets and procs that are too close together. Thanks HL and Corsair! My opinions are my own and not representative of this site or its members.

May 7th, 2007	#20
Dr. V Yes - the Doctor is back. Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,698	Re: AMD next-gen unveiled amd needs to, from now on, keep up with intel and dish out new CPUs as soon as they can. the new architecture and what they have now looks like it can easily overtake intel if looked at and executed correctly... they have to keep up.